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How big is the Menekkes Type 2 plug used by Tesla outside North America and Japan?
I don't think anyone is suggesting Tesla would remove the existing port - just that they would add another as well.
A CHAdeMO port would be used *instead of* the standard port, not as well as.
I was responding to:
How big is the Menekkes Type 2 plug used by Tesla outside North America and Japan?
I have no experience with the Menekkes plug so I can't comment on usability but I sure see why Tesla made the connector the way they did after seeing the monstrous options they avoided.
Roughly speaking the Type 2 Mennekes plug used in euro Tesla charging ports is about as big as the light ring around the U.S. Tesla charge port. (In euro cars that light functionality is moved outside of the port.)
This is why I said shoehorned in. There is very little space around the inlet. This is also most probably why we still have the spring actioned cover and not the new electric close cover for europe.
It is noticeably larger than a J1772 connector but noticeably smaller than a Chademo. So the progression in size is:
Tesla NA connector
J1772 connector
Menekkes Type 2 plug
Chademo
Combo CSS (arguably no worse than Chademo in connection area it is taller but not as wide. Personally I think that makes it uglier)
I have no experience with the Menekkes plug so I can't comment on usability but I sure see why Tesla made the connector the way they did after seeing the monstrous options they avoided.
What would happen if you put your finger in one of the 2 holes with the metal disc in the Jari/Jevs connector?
What would happen if you put your finger in one of the 2 holes with the metal disc in the Jari/Jevs connector?
What would happen if you put your finger in one of the 2 holes with the metal disc in the Jari/Jevs connector?
Scott, thanks for posting that photo montage. Those other connectors are monstrosities. The Tesla connector is a thing of beauty.
What would happen if you put your finger in one of the 2 holes with the metal disc in the Jari/Jevs connector?
Nothing, but if your finger know the comunication protocoll and ask for charging then you get current flowing.
That's even worse. #2 AL is good only to 90 amps at the 75 degC column (typical residential termination column).
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While the conductors are likely rated at 90 degC (which would make it good to 100A), the terminations on breakers and on electrical equipment is limited to 75 degC for typical residential applications, which means a limit of 90A.
Just to follow up. I did reach out to them. They called me back. But told me they don't know and couldn't give me any guidance. Oh well.Interesting. I;m in a similar boat. Actually, I'd say mine is more pressing. I have a Model S, limited to a single charger. But I am #1134 on the MX list, and we will be buying. And I'm limited to 30A charging at my current condo (thanks to PITA HOA). But we just bought a house and close later this month. Since we are all-electric (MS + Leaf), I will definitely need to set up charging at my new place before we can move. I intend to opt for the fastest charging possible for the MX. And I want to set up my garage to match it. So, knowing this is important to me. Guess I'll try writing them also with the same promise not to divulge ahead of any announcements.
practical or not - it IS necessary because (CARB) cali air resource board bases its favorite choice of 'clean' vehicle as FC (fuel cell), even though 95% is made via non-renewable - natural gas. They give about 5 more credits worth to FC, because supposedly they can refuel faster. Since the lion's share of EV's are sold in Cali, that becomes a major issue. Porsche just revealed their concept EV entry into the sedan luxury market. It DC fast charges @ 800v - 249 miles in 15 minutes;....... snip.... ....
I don't think DCFC only is going to be a wise or practical choice for an EV for quite some time.
3 car garage with two NEMA 14-50 Plugs and a HPWC (I can't purchase it until I have a Model X VIN number)