Update: Spoke to my DS and he has confirmed:
Production scheduled for 19th December
Should expect delivery end February/early March
Exciting stuff Afdyce, can I ask when you placed your order ? Thanks
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Update: Spoke to my DS and he has confirmed:
Production scheduled for 19th December
Should expect delivery end February/early March
I have a 60D on order ... the cost of upgrading to 75D.
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Tanfaldo I think it was £6500 or an extra £500 if ordered later. However as discussed in the previous posts if the costs reflects the price increase then it wont be anythink like this. Once I have a clear answer from Tesla I will advise so anyone in the UK with a 60 MX on order but not actually made yet can decide if it effects anything for them.
Nice post cookielovers, I am in the same position as you so this information is extremely interesting to say the least !Ok I got the numbers today if anyone has a 60D X on order and wants to change it to a 75D now before its made we can upgrade for an extra £7800 ok so I did some basic maths. original base buy price £64100 + £2200 for air suspension (SAS is now built into cost price of all cars) so £66300 I can pay £7800 extra and get the 75D for £74100 , he didn't specify and I will ask for qualification of the price to upgrade after taking delivery but the base price right now of a 75D X is £82000 which is a huge £7900 more and that's not taking into account any extra penalty if you purchase after delivery. I will get the accurate figure tomorrow once he responds to my email but I would expect it to be an extra £16700 which I cant see myself paying.
So I think I need to have a serious discussion with my wife tonight as those numbers make not buying the upgrade pointless as you will almost pay double later if you leave it. I will get the confirmation from Tesla on the after sale upgrade price tomorrow but if you are buying a 60D X and had planned to upgrade later then you really need to take this into consideration I certainly am.
The 60 definitely looks excellent value when taking everything into account.
The extra range will only be required a couple of times a year
I mentioned this is your other thread, but the 75 has 25% more max range than the 60 (when looked at from a starting point of a 60)
and there's the rub. Its turned out, for us, that we quite often make use (or take comfort from) the extra range (85 was discontinued during my order period and I upgraded to 90). The 90 has a range of 220 miles or so but since owning the car I have adopted a habit of charging to 100% whenever we make a journey of 160 miles or more - ensuring I can press-on if, say, we get held up, or can accommodate "could you just drop these teenagers at the station on your way home" and all that sort of stuff!
charging at home /office even when not really needed is probably the key ( such as down to 60% with no plan to travel more than 20 miles that day)
I read loads, as I am sure you have done, before taking ownership and all the old hands said "Range anxiety is nothing to worry about" so I assumed it wouldn't be! It truned out to just be a bit of change-management, and like all the Eco things we have implemented there have also been some lifestyle changes that we had to make to accommodate the change. No emergency 1 gallon can of 4-Star in the Boot / Garage, and an unscheduled powercut during the home-charging-interval is a PITA. Flip-side: off-peak electicty in UK is 5x, or more, cheaper than Petrol, fantastic if you are a high-mileage driver.
First up: you leave home every morning with a full tank. Thus you have to be travelling, in that day, more than 170 miles [your range for a 60] before you even have to think about off-site refuelling.
The "Fill when it falls below 1/4 tank" in an ICE is trivially easy, because there is a filling station on every street corner ... so when travelling more than 170 miles in a day in an EV some planning is definitely required (well, the first time you drive that route, at least)
The key thing for me (which i'm sure I have mentioned) was changing from the ICE-style habit of "Fill her to the brim" which initially manifested itself as sitting at a supercharger getting loads-of-electrons!! which then became: setting the SatNav and the Energy Monitor so that the moment I had enough spare-buffer to continue my journey (I work on 10% - so perhaps 20 - 25 miles) I set off. I would say that my Supercharging, now, is 50:50 where I fill up for 30 - 45 minutes because I have a long way to do, and 5-10 minutes just to give me enough to get home.
At a Supercharger I always increase the charge limit to 100% - just in case I am delayed, getting a coffee/whatever, so that the car will continue charging. Unlike standing at the pump filling with Petrol / Diesel, and then queuing to pay, you can get on with something else whilst the car is charging - so although it takes longer, the time can be productive. That works well for the driver, but for your passengers Supercharging just lengthens the journey - they already did all their emails etc. whilst sitting in the passenger seat! They can of course get out and stretch their legs, and have a pee, and get a coffe - same as you can too.
I always increase the scheduled overnight charge from my regular 90% setting to 100% if I am going to travel 75%, or more, of the car's max range. This is just "insurance", and something that I didn't bother to do initially (through fear that frequent 100% charging would damage the battery(*), there is now plenty of evidence that the battery will not be damaged / prematurely decline through 100% charging several times a month, just best not to leave it sat, fully charged, for prolonged periods). With a software-limited 60 there is nothing to stop you charging to 100% every time - you would only be charging to 80% of the physical 75's battery, so you won't need to adjust you behaviour for that.
(*) 10% of the battery is about 23.5 miles for me. So if I charge to 100% I only have to drive 23.5 miles before it is back down at 90% again ... it just doesn't seem a big deal, but I wasn't confident doing that initially.
Plug in in every night, even if you are only a few percentage points off "full". Only exception might be if you can plug in at work (and you have no metered use for BiK - which I guess will only be the case if you are the owner-manager and turning a blind eye ...), you might as well get power at work, and if you are going back to work again tomorrow perhaps don't bother to charge at home tonight ... but ... do the sums ... how much would you spend if you charged at home every night (assuming you also charged at work every day)? - you'll probably find, with a decent Off-Peak rate, that its only a couple of hundred quid a year of which, if you miserly prioritise charging at work as best you can, you might save less than 50 quid a year - I've done the sums for me, and it is just not worth bothering about. Take all the power you can at work, assuming that is free, but just don't worry about it. With a 60 you have more limited range, and thus more risk of range-anxiety if you have a family emergency / something out of the ordinary, so probably better to just plug in every time you are at home or at work so you always have your 1570 miles range when you want to go somewhere.
I'm sure I've rabbeted on far too much!
Oh DJP31 you really made me laugh, I am feeling exactly the same way as you. There is no point hoping for any understanding from the ladies. But safe in this man cave I think we can all admit the endless waiting is now taking its toll. I am genuinely feeling low and just want it to be over so I can enjoy the car. I have to say it constantly gripes me how in the USA someone can just order one and 3 or 4 weeks later they get it. I think they really are going to have to address this moving forward as it just not right. I suppose you could say the one reward for the uk has been we will all get the level 5 autonomy I would have been gutted if I had missed that but still come on tesla you have been building right hand drive cars since September so let's get on with it your customers are waiting too long.
Oh that sounds familiar. I can activate my charger from a web browser, so I do that sometimes as I arrive homeLaughs.
Its got nothing to do with gender, im the tesla obsessed person in our house who gets the 'are you reading that forum again?' comments. Yes i also mope, and i do retreat to my girl cave too.
Anyhow in transit, so only a matter of weeks now after reserving last year. had the charger installed this past weekend and i confess i did play with it as i passed it in the garage just to see it light up.