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No need for tire rotations with dual motor?

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by wjhepworth, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. wjhepworth

    wjhepworth Member

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    So, during my last annual checkup the service guy advised me that Tesla engineering feels that the dual motor Tesla MS & MX don't need to get a tire rotation... at all. Anybody believe this? I am continuing to do so for now every 10,000 just to be on safe side. My last set lasted 48,000 and I probably could have gotten 5,000 more.

    So their theory is that the dual motor Tesla automatically prevents uneven stress and wear on each wheel. I want to believe but.. seriously? Anybody try to not rotate tires in a D model?
     
  2. sorka

    sorka Active Member

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    You still need to rotate as rear camber is far more negative than front camber.
     
  3. DOCAL

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    I had my S 75D serviced 2-3 weeks ago, I didn't ask them to rotate the tires, but they did it anyway.
    According to their report, the tread depth on all 4 was identical (Inner/Center & Outer), so I guess it wouldn't really have mattered either way.
     
  4. BerTX

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    Exactly my experience. 20,000 miles at time of annual service, and they rotated even though all tread depths were reported as identical.

    I thought it was odd that they did both rotation and alignment when the wear was even. I guess they felt they needed to do a little to justify the charge.
     
  5. realvvk

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    Wow, 48k miles! I have almost 12k miles on my MS and starting to think about new tires. There seems to be no way I am getting more than 20k out of my OEM tires, GY Touring. Maybe with no rain or snow it would be OK but any rain and I start to oversteer in corners. My car is dual motor.
     
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    Tire wear between left and right is still likely to be un-even as well.
     
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    19 or 21" tires? the 21's don't seem to last well
     
  8. patrick40363

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    My 19" Michelin tires only last 12000 miles. You need to rotate the tires for the warranty.
     
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    I got ~25k miles out of my OE set of 19" Goodyears and were only rotated once. They were perfectly even all the way across on all four corners.
     
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    Nope.
     
  11. ecarfan

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    You do not need to rotate tires "for the warranty" as far as I know. Source?

    Only 12,000 miles? I got 40K out of my first set of Michelin Primacy and now have 22K on my second set and they have some tread life left. NOTE: I do not have a Dual Motor car.
     
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    I have 19" GY Touring. They do seem to be wearing very evenly.
     
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    2015 S85D, 27K on tires without rotating. At 25k checkup tires are all showing the same tread depth. I expect they will last at least 40k miles.
     
  14. Max*

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    Is that only for air suspension?
     
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    I have a 70D, no air, 19" tires. I rotated them once, because I just felt like I had to.

    Throughout their 42k miles (so far), the tire wear has been VERY even (i.e. all 4 tires, inner/middle/outer were always either the same or within 1/32s).

    Right now, they're all (all 12 locations) between 4-32 and 3/32.


    During the first part of their life, we did a lot of long distance road trips, so the tires seemed like they were going to last forever. The last 20k have been mostly city driving, so then the tires seemed like they were going to wear out prematurely. But overall, I'm happy with their tread life. Getting the exact same Michelin tires.
     
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    that's usually in cars with 21" wheels
     
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    S85D built April 2015, SAS, base 19" wheels with Michelin Primacies, 35K miles, tires never rotated. As of the last time I checked (a month or so ago?) inner/center/outer measurements on all four tires were all either 5/32" or 6/32".

    Bruce.
     
  18. Qbenjamin

    Qbenjamin Ballin On A Budget

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    Not sure what I'm doing correctly, but to see comments about folks having to replace a set of tires with under 20K miles on them..:eek:
     
  19. sorka

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    Nope, but air raising air suspension increases negative camber more. At the lowest setting, both air and springs are around -1.3 to -1.5.

    Front camber is usually half of that.
     
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  20. No2DinosaurFuel

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    18K miles on my 90D OEM tires. Mostly evenly worn even though I drive it pretty hard. Going to replace the tires around 20K miles. No rotation yet. The front is ever slightly more worn than the rear probably due to regen and corning.
     

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