Off topic galore

[heltok]

Back: I took a few days off and just realized something.

Q - How quickly did it take Starbase to be built up as a legitimate town/city? Looks like a decade from initial concept?

How quickly could it be replicated en masse?

SpaceX Starbase - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Private discussions between SpaceX and state officials about a private launch site began at least as early as 2011.[15] SpaceX CEO Elon Musk mentioned interest in a private launch site for their commercial launches in a September 2011 speech.[16] The company announced in August 2014 that they had chosen Texas as the location for their SpaceX South Texas launch site.[8] Site soil work began in 2015 and major construction of facilities began in late-2018, with rocket engine testing and flight testing beginning in 2019.

I expect Starbase 2.0 to be a lot bigger but with less time from soil work to construction.

 

[Thekiwi]

SpaceX Starbase - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Private discussions between SpaceX and state officials about a private launch site began at least as early as 2011.[15] SpaceX CEO Elon Musk mentioned interest in a private launch site for their commercial launches in a September 2011 speech.[16] The company announced in August 2014 that they had chosen Texas as the location for their SpaceX South Texas launch site.[8] Site soil work began in 2015 and major construction of facilities began in late-2018, with rocket engine testing and flight testing beginning in 2019.

I expect Starbase 2.0 to be a lot bigger but with less time from soil work to construction.

SpaceX is already well advanced on building a large starbase at the Cape, where a starship launch tower is already mostly built and a starship factory is already commencing production on parts.

Boca Chica is the R&D centre, but the cape is where most launches will likely happen once the design is perfected.

 

[betstarship]

SpaceX is already well advanced on building a large starbase at the Cape, where a starship launch tower is already mostly built and a starship factory is already commencing production on parts.

Boca Chica is the R&D centre, but the cape is where most launches will likely happen once the design is perfected.

From what I've read and understand - they're going to need 10's or 100's of these starport + factory cities to scale up going to Mars.

It'll no doubt be astounding the automation and manufacturing wins that are going to come out of that from SpaceX to the world!

 

[UncaNed]

Church or not ?

The enemy within? Ukraine’s Moscow-affiliated Orthodox Church faces scrutiny

Church alleged to be arm of the Kremlin – disguising Russian propaganda as religious teachings

www.theguardian.com

In the US, churches are arguably corrupt organizations guilty of hiding, and enabling legions of child-molesting clergy over the millennia, sometimes shell-gaming them throughout the US, then off to South America, while those churches rake in millions of dollars tax-free (via bequests and donations), and in many cases support political lobbying for unrestricted firearms possession for all, destroying public education and democracy along the way.

Nearby in Canada:

Canada confronts its dark history of abuse in residential schools

Landmark report reveals school system’s brutal attempt to assimilate thousands of native children for more than a century and gives voice to survivors

www.theguardian.com

it is my deepest hope that Ukraine emerges a less religious, more rational society with strong separation of church and state. They certainly don't need the likes of Putin's church.

 

[alexgr]

In the US, churches are arguably corrupt organizations guilty of hiding, and enabling legions of child-molesting clergy over the millennia

While this is probably true for many churches in the US, the Catholic church has been actually proven to be like that, and the nest of the Catholic church is in Europe.

it is my deepest hope that Ukraine emerges a less religious, more rational society with strong separation of church and state. They certainly don't need the likes of Putin's church.

Power is the very nature of church, all major religions were born to control people and often churches basically replaced the government. Rotten Russian church empowered by the government was a major cause of the Great Russian revolution of 1917. To certain extent, eradicating religion was one of few really progressive achievements of Soviet Union.

Ironically, the democracy brought the church back in power in Russia (and Ukraine) in the 1990th. This led to an amalgamation of the union of church and KGB exactly as in Voynovich's 1986 novel "Moscow 2042". So, my deepest hope is that churches is completely pushed out of relevance everywhere including Europe, where countries like Poland, you know, serve as examples for US right-wing lunatics.

 

[bobby g]

In the US, churches are arguably corrupt organizations guilty of hiding, and enabling legions of child-molesting clergy over the millennia, sometimes shell-gaming them throughout the US, then off to South America, while those churches rake in millions of dollars tax-free (via bequests and donations), and in many cases support political lobbying for unrestricted firearms possession for all, destroying public education and democracy along the way.

Nearby in Canada:

Canada confronts its dark history of abuse in residential schools

Landmark report reveals school system’s brutal attempt to assimilate thousands of native children for more than a century and gives voice to survivors

www.theguardian.com

it is my deepest hope that Ukraine emerges a less religious, more rational society with strong separation of church and state. They certainly don't need the likes of Putin's church.

Pretty broad brush you have there

 

[scaesare]

At investor day there was an easter egg of what looked like a Tesla parked over an induction charger.

Its likely that induction charging if released would be lower power, so maybe could be offered as a destination charge solution? Now if that could be implemented outside and in public spaces with the relevant automatic hand shake for payment, that would be the ideal solution for destination charging and especially helpful for the demographic without a private driveway, with induction pads wired in underneath public parking spaces at malls, hotels, or even street parking.

If implemented it would provide a very easy way of low speed charging with very little fuss.

Any chance you have a pic?

 

[Optimeer]

Any chance you have a pic?

Here a screenshot I saved

 

[mongo]

Any chance you have a pic?

Slide 106

https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/AA7YQM_Investor_Day_2023_Keynote_W9DARX.pdf

 

[hobbes]

Any chance you have a pic?

Here you go:

https://insideevs.com/news/655528/tesla-wireless-home-charging-tease/

 

[scaesare]

Here a screenshot I saved

View attachment 932336

Thanks...

My bad, I mis-read that and thought you were talking about something in conjunction with the recent quarterly mtg... I recall that pic from early last month too...

 

[jerry33]

Slide 106
View attachment 932335
https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/AA7YQM_Investor_Day_2023_Keynote_W9DARX.pdf

Looks cool, but it means you have to park just the right way, and have the right place in the garage to put it. You can't adjust/change the placement the way you can a cable.

 

[JupiterMan]

Any chance you have a pic?

its in this link:

Tesla teases mysterious “wireless” home charger on Investor Day

The image fueled speculations that Tesla may be rolling out a wireless charging system, at least for residential customers, in the future.

www.teslarati.com

 

[JRP3]

Looks cool, but it means you have to park just the right way, and have the right place in the garage to put it. You can't adjust/change the placement the way you can a cable.

I'd guess there is some leeway in positioning but I park the same way in my garage each time anyway. I'd set it up to back in as I currently do.

 

[jerry33]

I'd guess there is some leeway in positioning but I park the same way in my garage each time anyway. I'd set it up to back in as I currently do.

I do too, but Denise parks opposite.

 

[JRP3]

I do too, but Denise parks opposite.

I guess you'll need to change Or install 2.

 

[UncaNed]

Slide 106
View attachment 932335
https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/AA7YQM_Investor_Day_2023_Keynote_W9DARX.pdf

Wouldn't induction charging be a big unnecessary power loss vs. just plugging in??

 

[JRP3]

Wouldn't induction charging be a big unnecessary power loss vs. just plugging in??

New systems have very low loss.

 

[MP3Mike]

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Wouldn't induction charging be a big unnecessary power loss vs. just plugging in??

Not entirely controlled testing, but interesting results:

 

[GOVA]

Baikonur is 295ft above sea level.
Boca Chica is 3.
Even though the launch area is built up, you can see groundwater in the OLM crater.

Apologies if I was not clear, but this was exactly my point.

Need moar depth.