Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

mahagala · Jul 13, 2018

Chan888 said:
I completed my order on June 29. Does anyone know the cancellation / refund policy. Even with the rebate I could barely justify the purchase and now without it, I can't.

(also somewhere on the post someone mentioned the long ratnge AWD model was not eligible anyway...is this correct? I was sure when put through the order, it showed I would have gotten the rebate)

Thanks.

Tesla will refund back to your credit card, another option is if you don't mind standard range, you can have them switch order, and wait until next year. I wasn't a Tesla fan when they first introduce their Model S in 2012, but after I test drive last year, man, I know this is the car I want. Tesla design the car which I always dream of... Stylish, fast, clean, OTA update, I feel like I'm driving a new car every time they did OTA update ... Out of topic, but yeah, Model 3 is worth every penny with or without incentive.

ben1628 · Jul 13, 2018

We have to be fair.

Tesla doesn't have to offer you a refund, when we place an order, it has already indicated the order is firm and there is no refund, whether you get rebate or not. It is very nice of Tesla to offer us a FULL REFUND without fuss. No other dealer will do that for you.

The only thing I know is I will buy the next EV and the one after that from Tesla. Their cars are sexy. Wait until they come out with a SR, no premium package and AWD for Canadian. It will sell like hot cake.

Way to go

mahagala · Jul 13, 2018

egdeen said:
The newest message Tesla gets from Ontario official said all Tesla orders are ordered directly from an original equipment manufacturer by a consumer, not through a franchised automobile dealership. So all Tesla vehicle deliver after July 11 will not qualify. However, Tesla HQ is still communicating with MTO.

Thanks for the info, now I start to believe ICE dealers / companies are pushing and gave 'orders' to PC because they afraid of EV market to grow as they see Tesla is getting ready to change the world of transportation.

Chanrhc · Jul 13, 2018

The concern here is people that have ordered a car with the incentive in mind (and otherwise cannot afford the car without the incentive). This is very possibly effectively screwing them out of $14000. I hope Musk manages to deliver on the cars on time.

funkafied · Jul 13, 2018

Guys the media is starting to pick up on it. I strongly suggest you email Greg at Globe and Mail so that he can hear your story. He has asked me to provide his email with this post as I just spoke with him about it. Please message him. His email can be found here:
Greg Keenan

Kikkoman · Jul 13, 2018

Chanrhc said:
The concern here is people that have ordered a car with the incentive in mind (and otherwise cannot afford the car without the incentive). This is very possibly effectively screwing them out of $14000. I hope Musk manages to deliver on the cars on time.

It doesn't matter if they are delivered on time anymore, as of now, Teslas delivered after July 11 does not qualify for the incentive.

funkafied · Jul 13, 2018

Kikkoman said:
It doesn't matter if they are delivered on time anymore, as of now, Teslas delivered after July 11 does not qualify for the incentive.

Contact Greg Keenan at globe and mail and please tell your story. Greg Keenan

T3l5aFan · Jul 13, 2018

Making noise will only make the media turn this into another “blame Tesla” story. The incentive was never guaranteed. One had to purchase with some caution, I know I did. $14000 is a crazy amount of money to be giving out and overall too big to sustain. If you’re stuck then switch to standard battery or get a refund and buy a Leaf for a fraction of the price.

Chanrhc · Jul 13, 2018

Kikkoman said:
It doesn't matter if they are delivered on time anymore, as of now, Teslas delivered after July 11 does not qualify for the incentive.

Not true:

Applications will be accepted from dealerships, car owners or prospective car owners only if one of the following conditions has been met:

Eligible vehicles that have been delivered to consumers, registered, and plated on or before July 11 will receive the incentive.
Inventory that dealers have on lots or orders made by dealerships with manufacturers on or before July 11, will also be honoured for the incentive provided that the vehicle is delivered to consumers, registered, and plated by September 10.

Therefore, the second condition is the only condition that matters.

Glydadx2 · Jul 13, 2018

I have emailed Greg

RossK · Jul 13, 2018

Glydadx2 said:
I have emailed Greg

Me too

Tertulian · Jul 13, 2018

Kikkoman · Jul 13, 2018

funkafied said:
Guys the media is starting to pick up on it. I strongly suggest you email Greg at Globe and Mail so that he can hear your story. He has asked me to provide his email with this post as I just spoke with him about it. Please message him. His email can be found here:
Greg Keenan

Just sent him a email

Tertulian · Jul 13, 2018

...and here is the letter, with the spelling fixed:

Dear Mr./Ms. MPP,

Recently Premier Ford announced the cancellation of cap-and-trade, along with the green initiatives tied to it. Although I believe in climate change I understand that there are many ways to tackle this problem and Ontario’s Cap and Trade solution may not be the best of them. As such, my email today is not in protest to the cancellation of Cap and Trade and its associated green initiatives. Rather, it is in protest to the MANNER in which it is being cancelled, specifically in regards to the EHVIP program.

On July 11th, Premier Ford’s team announced the immediate cancellation of the program. The only way to still qualify for the rebate would be if one satisfied one of the following two conditions:

Eligible vehicles that have been delivered to consumers, registered, and plated on or before July 11 will receive the incentive.
Inventory that dealers have on lots or orders made by dealerships with manufacturers on or before July 11, will also be honoured for the incentive provided that the vehicle is delivered to consumers, registered, and plated by September 10.

Although this gives dealers a ‘wind-down’ period, it offers no such consideration to consumers. I believe this was done specifically to target Tesla buyers as they buy directly from the manufacturer, especially as Premier Ford has referred to Tesla owners as ‘downtown liberals’ and ‘millionaires’. This is simply not true. The only Tesla that is currently on the list of approved vehicles (i.e. the Model 3) is aimed at middle class Ontarians. After the rebate, gas savings, and savings on maintenance, the pricing of the Model 3 is in-line with non-luxury brands, such as Honda, Toyota, and GM. For most of us, the rebate is the difference between affordability and non-affordability. Many of us have ordered this car in good faith, placing a $4,200 non-refundable deposit. We now face a no-win scenario; either cancel our orders and lose $4,200, or commit to buying a car that we can no longer afford.

All I am asking is that Premier Ford extend to us, his constituents, the same consideration he is offering to businesses (i.e. the dealers); honour those orders that were placed prior to July 11th providing the vehicle is delivered, registered, and plated by September 10th. As it stands, it seems as though Premier Ford is intentionally targeting Tesla, but is really only hurting his people. We voted-in Premier Ford in good faith, so please don’t break faith with us now – wind down this program in an equitable manner.

Sincerely,

Chan888 · Jul 13, 2018

wanche said:
Tesla will refund back to your credit card, another option is if you don't mind standard range, you can have them switch order, and wait until next year. I wasn't a Tesla fan when they first introduce their Model S in 2012, but after I test drive last year, man, I know this is the car I want. Tesla design the car which I always dream of... Stylish, fast, clean, OTA update, I feel like I'm driving a new car every time they did OTA update ... Out of topic, but yeah, Model 3 is worth every penny with or without incentive.

Thanks Wanche, that's a good idea. I'll wait until Monday and let the dust settle and see if Tesla comes out with any official response, before I call Tesla to switch my order and wait until a more affordable model is available - ideally, SR, AWD (for Canadian winters), non-premium package. Just wish I could have gotten this WITH the rebate too.

funkafied · Jul 13, 2018

Kikkoman said:
Just sent him a email

Awesome! You guys are the best. For those that haven’t contact him, contact him! He’s writing a story. Let our voices be heard!

dani190 · Jul 13, 2018

funkafied said:
Contact Greg Keenan at globe and mail and please tell your story. Greg Keenan

Just emailed him also.

JohnMG · Jul 13, 2018

It seems that those of us who had made the original deposit ($1000) but not the order ($3200) are totally out of luck.

I myself was purposely holding out from making the 3200 pavement because of the uncertainty of the incentive. Now I am realizing that, even if Ford decides to honour purchases made before July 11th and delivered before September 10th, those of us who were waiting to hear more information about the cancellation of the rebate are screwed. Anyone else in this boat? Seems as if I would have been much better off just paying the 3200, risking loosing the incentive.

At this point, those of us who didn’t pay the 3200 really have absolutely no hope. If I had just paid the 3200, I could at least hope for Ford to honour the rebate.

Tertulian · Jul 13, 2018

funkafied said:
Awesome! You guys are the best. For those that haven’t contact him, contact him! He’s writing a story. Let our voices be heard!

Just emailed him!

Remember to also email the PC MPPs!

felixculpas · Jul 13, 2018

Tertulian said:
Just emailed him!

Remember to also email the PC MPPs!

All done including providing Greg my twitter conversation.

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