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Can p3d- get $5k back, or only get Pup installed? Already paid to have brakes painted.

They are offering the 5k cash back to P3D- owners as well. However keep in mind the basis aren't just painted red on the PUP version. They are substantially better brakes than stock. You'd be better off taking the upgrade imo. It's really the obvious choice for us P3D- folks. The 5k you'd get back won't cover the loss you'll get from trying to sell the car later. I suspect the P3D- cars are now worth at least 10-15k less now that PUP is included at base price.
 
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They are offering the 5k cash back to P3D- owners as well. However keep in mind the basis aren't just painted red on the PUP version. They are substantially better brakes than stock. You'd be better off taking the upgrade imo. It's really the obvious choice for us P3D- folks. The 5k you'd get back won't cover the loss you'll get from trying to sell the car later. I suspect the P3D- cars are now worth at least 10-15k less now that PUP is included at base price.

Those brakes outside of the track are functionality equivalent to the standard brakes. They also make smaller wheel and tire fitment considerably more difficult. I don't think the items in the pup are worth $5k.
 
Not sure how a 59k p3d- would be undesirable. If that's the eventual outcome, I would consider myself the luckiest p3d buyer of them all.
If P3D- buyers receive a $5K refund, they will be making out like bandits. They will be the envy of standard AWD buyers who paid just $5-6K less for a vehicle with 25-40% slower acceleration.
 
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They are offering the 5k cash back to P3D- owners as well. However keep in mind the basis aren't just painted red on the PUP version. They are substantially better brakes than stock. You'd be better off taking the upgrade imo. It's really the obvious choice for us P3D- folks. The 5k you'd get back won't cover the loss you'll get from trying to sell the car later. I suspect the P3D- cars are now worth at least 10-15k less now that PUP is included at base price.

Performance was $11K upgrade from AWD. P3D- is worth more than AWD, so for $10K depreciation you’re saying better acceleration and track mode is only worth $1K. At the end of the day I think PUP cost Tesla very little compared to the $5K upgrade price.
 
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Only in the world of Tesla does people get upset when they paid more then their neighbor for the same car. I bought a 2015 mustang when new and so did my friend. My friend walked away with a better deal (lower cost) for a identical car on the same weekend as me. This happens literally with everyone everyday at dealerships.

So it’s funny how some 1. Act like this is a first this has ever happened to them buying a car and 2. Talk about going back to a another manufacturer who doesn’t control the price (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price) and pay more or less then MSRP then what the joe did 5 mins ago
Teslas who thing is that everyone pays the same price, no negotiation right? But then you wait 3-4 months for them to produce the car and when they finally get it to you full of defects and draw you into accepting it, then they change the price immediately after? it's not like you order the car and pick it up the next week drive it for 3 months and then the price changes due to a sale or some inside transaction. no you wait and wait and wait while oter get their cars and are enjoying them. Ten the day after you pick it up boom, everyone gets the same thing for 5k less.

Did you wait a year and 1/2 for that mustang? Were you told WHEN you needed to purchase it? Were you able to negotiate the price you paid? Tesla does not do any of these things. They are still slapping the customers who got them to their Q3, then rewarding those who didn't wait and didn't give them a free loan.

Yes they have every right to do this. But people are not going to be happy. Especially if you bought a P3D- and want to add the PUP, now you need to pay what? 8k more?

With the mustang you know the invoice price and how might higher or lower than that your paying, teslas invoice price seems to change daily. And we are not talking a small amount of money either. I could have kept my volt for my wife over this much difference in money. I mean really your looking at the cost of an entire car for the difference.

I know some people don't drive around 5k cars but yes 5k will buy you a car.
 
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CNN Business' car expert, Peter Valdes-Dapena said that minus the upgraded package, it wasn't such an enjoyable experience anyway.

'Without the upgraded wheels and tires, the Model 3 Performance felt awkward and, really, a little scary on a twisty mountain road,' he said in a review.

Car expert? I mean, the suspension is 1/2” lower but an “expert” claiming wheels make a difference to handling has to be doubted. Tires, sure. But experts shouldn’t be spreading bad info like this. Power of suggestion (and tires) is strong with handling perceptions...

Brakes are a non-issue unless tracking the car. They have near zero effect on stopping distance (tires are all that matter).

So, the P3D- is a very practical choice for many people, and if it’s 5k cheaper now for those who bought it when available, that makes it a nicely priced upgrade from AWD. Stock, it is more efficient than P3D+ due to the tires, and if you want to upgrade tires, it handles about the same (once equipped with PS4S-equivalent but cheaper (due to aspect) tires), has the advantage of additional ground clearance, and fits whatever wheels you want to put on it if you want to pay for extra wheels (for snow tires). Extra bonus is that unlike the P3D+ you might get away with running MXM4s through the winter if you’re careful and have some tread left. So winter wheels aren’t an absolute must, just nice to have. Lots of winning all around with the P3D-. AND...P3D- now gets track mode - something buyers knew was not included - and the only reason I ordered P3D+ since at some point I might autocross it. So much winning. Hope it is confirmed that those P3D- owners also have the option of swapping FUSC for 5k.
 
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How would my car P3D- be worth 10K less. That makes no sense. And it would be worth even less if I take the 5K!?!?! How?
It's worth even less because nobody is going to want to buy a P3D- when you can get the real version at 64k. 64k is a perfect price point for this type of car but the problem with the P3D- at 64k is that it's not actually competitive. I can get an M3 for 66k fully loaded at base. I can get an S4/S5 for under 55k, or 65k if you add all the options. A Mercedes C63 is 73k. It's an obvious move to include PUP. It should have always been included at base. So yea... good luck getting 59k for a P3D-. I'd be surprised anyone would buy it for 54k. Personally I'll be taking the upgrade. At least then I know it's still worth 64k.
 
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It's worth even less because nobody is going to want to buy a P3D- when you can get the real version at 64k. 64k is a perfect price point for this type of car but the problem with the P3D- at 64k is that it's not actually competitive. I can get an M3 for 66k fully loaded at base. I can get an S4/S5 for under 55k, or 65k if you add all the options. A Mercedes C63 is 73k. It's an obvious move to include PUP. It should have always been included at base. So yea... good luck getting 59k for a P3D-. I'd be surprised anyone would buy it for 54k. Personally I'll be taking the upgrade. At least then I know it's still worth 64k.
Yep Paid 79.5k after tax for my P3d- less than 2 weeks ago. it's now worth 54k and I should be happy about it.
 
It's worth even less because nobody is going to want to buy a P3D- when you can get the real version at 64k. 64k is a perfect price point for this type of car but the problem with the P3D- at 64k is that it's not actually competitive. I can get an M3 for 66k fully loaded at base. I can get an S4/S5 for under 55k, or 65k if you add all the options. A Mercedes C63 is 73k. It's an obvious move to include PUP. It should have always been included at base. So yea... good luck getting 59k for a P3D-. I'd be surprised anyone would buy it for 54k. Personally I'll be taking the upgrade. At least then I know it's still worth 64k.

You are saying no one would want a P3D- compared to an AWD at the same price?? o_O
 
Hope it is confirmed that those P3D- owners also have the option of swapping FUSC for 5k.

I spoke to Tesla this morning. They confirmed P3D- owners will get the option of the 5k refund or the PUP installed. I need to confirm whether or not installing PUP will void FUSC though.

Everyone should get an email in the next week or so with their options. That's what the rep told me.
 
This goes against my belief that social media is a social disease.

I've been in tech for years. I get it, Tesla is a tech company. When someone likes me buys tech you do it with the understanding that the tech comes with no promises, including price. You do so knowing that the thing you just paid for will be half the cost soon. And the new thing, will have twice the processing power.

In all my years, I've not once bought something then a month later the price was significantly less.

We took delivery of our P3D 9-21-18. Now a month later, the price is $5k less. We paid for FSD. Now it's not even an option. So from my keyboard, we flushed $10k down the toilet - sort of.

re: $5k price drop.

There's a thread about this on another site, here:
Tesla reduces price of Model 3 Performance [Updated: Elon Musk makes it right]

Assuming the comments aren't bots/homies, there's stuff to glean.

We got the full $7.5k rebate. So that helps. And we got free supercharging for life, that helps.

When it was announced that the rebates were going to be cut in half, my first thought was Elon would lower the price by that much. So I expected a price change. Did I expect it a month later? No. Am I pissed? I was yesterday. But then I practiced being present. What's done is done, wasting time in the past is nowhere. I was happy with the price @ $80k.

Does it cause me to tell others not to buy a Tesla? No. The mission of electric cars is ultra-important - for the economy, for the planet. Go Elon.

re: FSD
If Elon ends up giving it away, I'm fine with that too. But I think he should do something for those that ponied up.

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So Elon, in the unlikely chance you're reading this, here's my thoughts.

Would you get it together and get me my rear badge and spoiler? That was a big deal to me. Like, soon?

And how 'bout this, too, Elon? We live in the mountains of CO. The 20" stock tires are a hit on range. 20" snow tires are a big hit on range. How 'bout making a 19" tire/wheel set that'd fit on my car? Now I'm getting better range. And, if it does turn out that you give away FSD, cut us a deal on the tire/wheel set.

Something else, Elon. I think you're guilty of truth in advertising on range. The website says 310 miles. Phooey. You need to do a much better job of telling people how range works. Do a better job of telling 'em about heat and cold, how both affect range. Tell people that they should calculate range based on an 80% charge, and not dropping below 20% charge. Doing so is being straight up, it's integrity.

Elon, you're going to go down as one of the great minds. You already are, one of the great minds. We bought your car because we needed one. It's a little above our pay grade, but we love it. Your car rocks. We love helping the planet.

One more. You ever called your company, the phone number on the website? Terrible. My experience has been that your tech support is worse than Apple's tech support. Now that I've bought the car my rep doesn't want to have anything to do with me. I tried getting a hold of finance, because we still don't have the registration docs. They basically told me to pound sand. I don't like that. No car, is worth going through lousy service to drive it. We paid $80k for your car.

Listen to your customers, Elon. They're all you have.

Peace and love,
This goes against my belief that social media is a social disease.

I've been in tech for years. I get it, Tesla is a tech company. When someone likes me buys tech you do it with the understanding that the tech comes with no promises, including price. You do so knowing that the thing you just paid for will be half the cost soon. And the new thing, will have twice the processing power.

In all my years, I've not once bought something then a month later the price was significantly less.

We took delivery of our P3D 9-21-18. Now a month later, the price is $5k less. We paid for FSD. Now it's not even an option. So from my keyboard, we flushed $10k down the toilet - sort of.

re: $5k price drop.

There's a thread about this on another site, here:
Tesla reduces price of Model 3 Performance [Updated: Elon Musk makes it right]

Assuming the comments aren't bots/homies, there's stuff to glean.

We got the full $7.5k rebate. So that helps. And we got free supercharging for life, that helps.

When it was announced that the rebates were going to be cut in half, my first thought was Elon would lower the price by that much. So I expected a price change. Did I expect it a month later? No. Am I pissed? I was yesterday. But then I practiced being present. What's done is done, wasting time in the past is nowhere. I was happy with the price @ $80k.

Does it cause me to tell others not to buy a Tesla? No. The mission of electric cars is ultra-important - for the economy, for the planet. Go Elon.

re: FSD
If Elon ends up giving it away, I'm fine with that too. But I think he should do something for those that ponied up.

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So Elon, in the unlikely chance you're reading this, here's my thoughts.

Would you get it together and get me my rear badge and spoiler? That was a big deal to me. Like, soon?

And how 'bout this, too, Elon? We live in the mountains of CO. The 20" stock tires are a hit on range. 20" snow tires are a big hit on range. How 'bout making a 19" tire/wheel set that'd fit on my car? Now I'm getting better range. And, if it does turn out that you give away FSD, cut us a deal on the tire/wheel set.

Something else, Elon. I think you're guilty of truth in advertising on range. The website says 310 miles. Phooey. You need to do a much better job of telling people how range works. Do a better job of telling 'em about heat and cold, how both affect range. Tell people that they should calculate range based on an 80% charge, and not dropping below 20% charge. Doing so is being straight up, it's integrity.

Elon, you're going to go down as one of the great minds. You already are, one of the great minds. We bought your car because we needed one. It's a little above our pay grade, but we love it. Your car rocks. We love helping the planet.

One more. You ever called your company, the phone number on the website? Terrible. My experience has been that your tech support is worse than Apple's tech support. Now that I've bought the car my rep doesn't want to have anything to do with me. I tried getting a hold of finance, because we still don't have the registration docs. They basically told me to pound sand. I don't like that. No car, is worth going through lousy service to drive it. We paid $80k for your car.

Listen to your customers, Elon. They're all you have.

Peace and love,
Wow, I am exactly in the same boat as you are! I took delivery of P3D+ on Sept 28, 2018, and I have not received my registration packet as of yet despite contacting the senior delivery specialist. I am still actively deciding on winter solutions because of the difficulty of 20-inch wheels with the performance brakes with the summer tires which is no good under 40 F. I get about 300 wh/mi making it much less than 310-mile range. Tesla officially does not make 18 or 19-inch winter wheel package and forcing me to look at aftermarket wheels and then forcing me to use other 3rd party tire service centers since their centers are not allowed to work on aftermarket winter solutions including mounting them.

Now with $5000 price reduction in less then a month period is crazy especially since I have not even received the badging's that I paid for as of yet. Supercharging rights were given for owner referrals and now he wants to take that right away albeit with possibly a $5000 refund but who knows whether we will actually get that back in what time frame. I can't even get a registration packet delivered in time when the vehicle is completely paid off in cash. I can't even get the Rocklin service center to call me back on the service issues. Now I may have to cough up additional penalties to the Nevada DMV. Early PD3+ owners were one of the most staunch supporters of Tesla and they are certainly doing a good job of keeping us on guard with their moves.
 
You are saying no one would want a P3D- compared to an AWD at the same price?? o_O

A P3D- is just AWD with a software bump. That's all. The P3D- was overpriced. I was upset once I got the car and realized it had zero performance parts different from the AWD version. I think a P3D- is only worth55k honestly. I'd pay 1-2k for the software bump over AWD. At 64k I feel taken for a chump. If I had to do it over again I would've just bought the PUP in the first place.
 
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I spoke to Tesla this morning. They confirmed P3D- owners will get the option of the 5k refund or the PUP installed. I need to confirm whether or not installing PUP will void FUSC though.

Everyone should get an email in the next week or so with their options. That's what the rep told me.

Free PUP while keeping FUSC, tempting (especially if you keep the Aero wheels to sell)... Losing FUSC, take the $5k and add better brakes and wheels IMO.