[POLL] CA Current owners ONLY. Have you received your config invite yet?

[Bet TSLA]

Can you share your delivery experience? How is the car?

Sure, a bit. The car is great; came up with nothing for the due bill. My only disappointment is no heated rear seats. I also hadn't expected a light colored headliner to be part of a "black interior", but I suspect I'll get used to it.

The Fremont delivery center (which, incidentally, is at 47623 Fremont Blvd in Fremont) is beautiful. The Ludicrous Latte as provided by the dedicated barista provides a serious caffeine buzz. There's a display in the lounge area along one side for Powerwall and Solar, but unfortunately there was nobody to talk to about them. There's a large room with 14 lighted pads for delivery of S and X, and a separate one for 3. The S & X room was much busier (I saw eleven in process at once), while the room for 3's never held more than four during the two hours it took us to take delivery.

We spent about an hour getting the spiel about the car along with a hands-on demo of everything. We spent maybe twenty minutes examining the car in detail looking for flaws. We found a couple of blemishes which went away with a bit of cleaning. And there was about forty minutes of paperwork. We paid by personal check when we were done. It was all quite pleasant and simple.

I think the only things I can complain about is that our delivery started 45 minutes after our appointment time. Our delivery specialist came to talk to us shortly after we arrived to tell us our car was still being prepped and would be fifteen minutes or so. The "or so" was a half hour. But it was a pleasant and comfortable lounge area so no real problem.

I wandered outside and spotted a couple new VINs to go with my 2300.

!vinbot Model 3 #2300 #2062 #2251

 

[MP3Mike]

My only disappointment is no heated rear seats.

I'm pretty sure that, at this point, all Model 3s have heated rear seats, I just suspect that the UI isn't there to turn them on yet. (It is supposed to be part of the PUP.)

 

[run-the-joules]

I’d happily trade heated rear seats for a heated steering wheel and heated wiper jets. I will never sit in the back seat so I don’t care about the heated seats but a warm wheel is nice and so are not-frozen super jets.

 

[Bet TSLA]

I'm pretty sure that, at this point, all Model 3s have heated rear seats, I just suspect that the UI isn't there to turn them on yet. (It is supposed to be part of the PUP.)

That's what I thought, but I haven't seen documentation of that. The owner's manual says:
Seat Heaters
The front seats are equipped with heating
pads that operate at three levels from 3
(highest) to 1 (lowest). To operate the seat
heaters, see Climate Controls on page 86.

There's nothing about rear seat heaters.

 

[bswn1]

That's what I thought, but I haven't seen documentation of that. The owner's manual says:
Seat Heaters
The front seats are equipped with heating
pads that operate at three levels from 3
(highest) to 1 (lowest). To operate the seat
heaters, see Climate Controls on page 86.

There's nothing about rear seat heaters.

The rear seats are definitely heated and a future software update will allow you to toggle them. Confirmed by my SA via email.

 

[Bet TSLA]

The rear seats are definitely heated and a future software update will allow you to toggle them. Confirmed by my SA via email.

That would make my wife quite happy, but I'll believe it when I see it. Lots of misinformation from Tesla people over the years.

 

[insaneoctane]

The rear seats are definitely heated and a future software update will allow you to toggle them. Confirmed by my SA via email.

Can you share the relevant text of that email?

 

[daniel]

Just as a barometer: I'm a never-owner (never owned an S, X or CPO reservation) with Nov-Jan delivery estimate (was Oct-Dec before the shift), 3/31 east coast in-store reservation with SoCal residency & delivery address, so should be toward the earliest non-owner deliveries): Still no invite.

So non-owners in CA have priority over owners outside of CA. For me in WA that's disappointing. Well, I'm just going to figure I'll have my car by June. (My window is Dec - Feb.)

 

[Bet TSLA]

So non-owners in CA have priority over owners outside of CA. For me in WA that's disappointing. Well, I'm just going to figure I'll have my car by June. (My window is Dec - Feb.)

You can be pretty much certain that right now end of quarter rules apply. Priority is given to cars whose new owners will take delivery before the end of the quarter.

 

[SlicedBr3ad]

So non-owners in CA have priority over owners outside of CA. For me in WA that's disappointing. Well, I'm just going to figure I'll have my car by June. (My window is Dec - Feb.)

Imagine you're in a store, waiting to check out. Someone comes in after you've been standing in line for 4 hours and says, I've shopped in this store before and that's why this store is still in business. I'm going to go ahead of you in line. I can argue both sides but I will feel more empathy to the person standing in line for four hours than the person who shopped in store before and is now cutting the line.

 

[daniel]

Imagine you're in a store, waiting to check out. Someone comes in after you've been standing in line for 4 hours and says, I've shopped in this store before and that's why this store is still in business. I'm going to go ahead of you in line. I can argue both sides but I will feel more empathy to the person standing in line for four hours than the person who shopped in store before and is now cutting the line.

Totally agree. But then the store should not put up great big sign saying, "PEOPLE WHO'VE SHOPPED HERE BEFORE CAN CUT TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE."

And when the store has a new and really popular brand of cereal and nine out of ten people coming to the store are there just for that brand of cereal, it would be nice if the store had a really clear, concise, statement of how they plan on allocating the limited supply of the cereal.

An argument could be made that non-owners should have priority over owners, because owners are already driving electric, so let's give the new folks first crack at the Model 3. All I want is a clear, concise statement so I can figure out how I really stand in the line, because the delivery window on the My Tesla page is tainted by Elon's chrono-optimism: Tesla seldom delivers when they say they will. So instead, I'd like Tesla to tell each reservation-holder what our actual place in the line is. Take all the time they need to make sure they get the car right. But give me a solid indication of where I stand.

 

[barjohn]

They could tell us how many people are ahead of us in the line but they can't tell us when they will serve us because they don't know how many will opt to wait for a different configuration or just cancel for some other reason. However, they should be able to estimate fairly accurately after processing several hundred in the line as the statistics should then give them an idea of how many are likely to postpone or cancel delivery.

 

[llngoc]

It seems like so; the same thing happened for our first Model S, I was told if I was able to take delivery by 6/30, I could have my car 2 months early. I fully expect to get a call tomorrow and told to come in on 12/30 (Saturday) to pick up my Model 3 which I just ordered on Saturday morning. Tesla most likely already have a lot of these cars built since they are all essentially the same car and is not reaching out to all the potential owners living close by the factor so they can have XXXX Model 3 delivered in Q4 headline in the next earning report. I would love it since I can get my car before end of year to get the tax credit and it will probably also boost the TSLA stock which I own.

You can be pretty much certain that right now end of quarter rules apply. Priority is given to cars whose new owners will take delivery before the end of the quarter.

 

[SlicedBr3ad]

They could tell us how many people are ahead of us in the line but they can't tell us when they will serve us because they don't know how many will opt to wait for a different configuration or just cancel for some other reason. However, they should be able to estimate fairly accurately after processing several hundred in the line as the statistics should then give them an idea of how many are likely to postpone or cancel delivery.

Could be a countdown

 

[MP3Mike]

That would make my wife quite happy, but I'll believe it when I see it. Lots of misinformation from Tesla people over the years.

You could always pop the back cushions off and see if there is wiring for heaters.

 

[SeaDoc]

Sure, a bit. The car is great; came up with nothing for the due bill. My only disappointment is no heated rear seats. I also hadn't expected a light colored headliner to be part of a "black interior", but I suspect I'll get used to it.

The Fremont delivery center (which, incidentally, is at 47623 Fremont Blvd in Fremont) is beautiful. The Ludicrous Latte as provided by the dedicated barista provides a serious caffeine buzz. There's a display in the lounge area along one side for Powerwall and Solar, but unfortunately there was nobody to talk to about them. There's a large room with 14 lighted pads for delivery of S and X, and a separate one for 3. The S & X room was much busier (I saw eleven in process at once), while the room for 3's never held more than four during the two hours it took us to take delivery.

We spent about an hour getting the spiel about the car along with a hands-on demo of everything. We spent maybe twenty minutes examining the car in detail looking for flaws. We found a couple of blemishes which went away with a bit of cleaning. And there was about forty minutes of paperwork. We paid by personal check when we were done. It was all quite pleasant and simple.

I think the only things I can complain about is that our delivery started 45 minutes after our appointment time. Our delivery specialist came to talk to us shortly after we arrived to tell us our car was still being prepped and would be fifteen minutes or so. The "or so" was a half hour. But it was a pleasant and comfortable lounge area so no real problem.

I wandered outside and spotted a couple new VINs to go with my 2300.

!vinbot Model 3 #2300 #2062 #2251

Do you have pictures of your new interior, including the light colored headliner? Thanks

 

[llngoc]

This YouTube video is very good to get you psyched up.

Do you have pictures of your new interior, including the light colored headliner? Thanks

 

[SeaDoc]

This YouTube video is very good to get you psyched up.

Nice, thanks much... Got my configuration option, but waiting now for the white interior...

 

[macpacheco]

So non-owners in CA have priority over owners outside of CA. For me in WA that's disappointing. Well, I'm just going to figure I'll have my car by June. (My window is Dec - Feb.)

I think it makes sense Tesla will mostly follow their promises but not to the letter.
If they promised to first deliver to MS/MX/Roadster owners in the USA, starting with California, then rest of west coast, ... They should mostly do this, BUT, I think they will start delivering to non owners in California while (in parallel) delivering rest of west coast, non owners in west coast in parallel with previous owners in rest of country.
I would NOT expect Tesla to allow is M3 delivery capacity in California to be idle in order to follow their promises to the letter.
In fact I believe that will be the criteria to start SR deliveries in CA. Do it to keep their delivery people busy.
If Tesla was out to make a profit on M3, they would be charging at LEAST US$ 10k more. Instead they chose to keep prices as low as possible, which pushes their profit margins including GF and M3 tooling to negative at first. Unless you have US$ 1 billion to lend Tesla I think it wouldn't be fair to judge them like that.
Tesla's absolute #1 priority is to avoid loosing money. There's no Tesla if it goes bankrupt.
No, I'm not a short. I'm a huge fan of Musk/Tesla/SpaceX and I think they will succeed big. But the next 2 years will be crucial to maximize cash flow in order to minimize borrowing, and that will depend on bending some promises as far as delivery order to increase deliveries to the max possible.
As a non Tesla owner/reservation holder, I have the luxury of thinking with far more objectivity than most and root for Tesla's success over maximizing happiness of each and every owner.

 

[daniel]

They could tell us how many people are ahead of us in the line but they can't tell us when they will serve us because they don't know how many will opt to wait for a different configuration or just cancel for some other reason.

Agreed. And I'd be entirely satisfied with knowing how many people are ahead of me. The MyTesla page could easily be made to do this, and as people take delivery or postpone, alter the numbers, so we could see our turn coming up.

Do the production and the delivery however they decide is best for the company. I want them to succeed as much as we all do, and if delaying my order for a year would be best for Tesla, then do it. But give us information. It's not knowing that is unbearable. I know I'm not going to get my car in December. So why does my delivery estimate still say Dec - Feb?