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Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2016

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Seems too safe IMO. Geography alone (difficulty in getting to a store without traveling too far) would easily take care of x2-4 IMO. Then you have all those interested and willing, just not THAT interested that they'll take some of their (valuable) time to physically stand in line. Then those who want to see it before reserving. Then you have all those who will learn about M3 by reading about and seeing pictures of people standing in line. Then you have all of those who will learn about the future existence of M3 for the first time tomorrow, together with pictures of the car and basic specs.

I think you can add another 2-3x people who are really interested but can't get off work...
 
Martin, please be careful with this. IMO the Sell On the News thesis is the suckers bet.

Putting on a Seeking Alpha style bearish hat for a minute (not a good fit I can tell you) - Watching Musk's sheep answer his call to line up in shopping malls for a stock pumping photo op /hat off. Is NOT the news.

The news is that Tesla has undeniably and self-evidently broken the ICE technology moat on automotive, forever - that's the news. You could not convince a short to anticipate this news on the rumor even if you paid him and most longs would find this to be a proposition worthy of skepticism too.

The shorts will have to wear this breach of denial like an hat tonight and it will be pulled all the way down to their ankles come Monday. We may even get treated to concession speeches from other auto maker CEOs over the weekend with pitiable pleas for consumer calm and forbearance while they try to do what they can to catch up.

I feel like the Eye Of Sauron briefly shone on me and passed by.... phew. ;)

I believe we are totally on the same page. I'm only saying that the traditional "sell on the news" phase has already begun. It's not starting at market-open tomorrow morning, it's happening throughout the day today. Investors (bulls and bears) can speculate all they want about hypothetical future demand, but seeing thousands of buyers lining up all around the world for a car is undeniable evidence of future success.

In fact in a rare move, I will echo what Trip Chowdry says. Multiplying the reservation numbers by $35,000 (or $37,800 to include taxes and delivery) gets you a very big cashpile that members of the public are committing to spend. (I'm going to assume a 100% take-up... there aren't a lot of people who routinely wait hours in line and drop $1,000 only to take it back months later) 10,000 reservations is $378million committed - which is money taken out of the grasp of other automakers. 100,000 reservations is nearly $4billion!!!
 
Seems too safe IMO. Geography alone (difficulty in getting to a store without traveling too far) would easily take care of x2-4 IMO. Then you have all those interested and willing, just not THAT interested that they'll take some of their (valuable) time to physically stand in line. Then those who want to see it before reserving. Then you have all those who will learn about M3 by reading about and seeing pictures of people standing in line. Then you have all of those who will learn about the future existence of M3 for the first time tomorrow, together with pictures of the car and basic specs.

You are also not cutting the line much compared to reserving online early.
 
(I'm going to assume a 100% take-up... there aren't a lot of people who routinely wait hours in line and drop $1,000 only to take it back months later)

I believe the conversation rate will be below 50% but it doesn't matter that much, they'll be construction constrained for the first few years regardless.
 
I fear I may be in need of someone to talk me out of going all in on stock? This is greatly exceeding my expectations. Unprecedented doesn't begin to describe this.

This may already be priced in, based on BMW market cap and cars sold Tesla is priced as if it is delivering 1M cars a year.

I'm holding though because I think Tesla in the long run will reap much larger margins then other automakers and I think it is very likely that Tesla will continue to branch out into new markets, like Tesla Energy. Basically I'm putting my money that Elon will use Tesla and its cash flow and ability to raise capital to keep making things like this happen.
 
JHM are we able to put deposits in now? Prior to the event?
This was not a deposit. It was a final payment on our MS 70D with delivery Saturday. At least the cash flow will show up in Q1.

The delivery specialist wanted us to take delivery today, but we could not swing that with our schedules. The parking lot at the Tesla store is all packed up today. I'm glad we're not in the middle of that.
 
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One other thing... I think the consensus is that the Q1 Deliveries Estimate isn't due until Monday April 4th. Tesla could keep the momentum going by releasing the estimates number tomorrow April 1st, so there would be a ton of Tesla news. (actual figures have historically been revised upwards 0.25% or so during earnings release)
 
You can add me to this group. I would be in line right now if I can get off work (and I might have to do overtime tonight too). I guess it is online reservation for me (will try to rush home to do it or use my phone if need be).
Just an anecdata point: I am fortunate to be working from home and on my own time, mostly. Unfortunate in having a bad door handle needing a warranty repair, and a 90 minutes drive to SeC Gothenburg. However, thanks to a cunning plan ;) I got a repair time slot on March 31, around 10AM when the store opened (garage opens earlier).

Got there around 9.30 on a cold foggy morning. Several dozen waiting outside, maybe 50-80 (hard to estimate, didn't look close, bad weather, wanting to get my car fixed). A sales rep at the gate ushered us into the service area and the service rep took the car in and gave us a loaner, for three signatures.

When I came back with the loaner (P90DL!) at 1PM, the line had just dissolved. They told me the max was about 120 people at a time, and a total of several hundred so far. One guy was just making a reservation when my car key was returned, but another sales rep jumped out from the lounge and took care of my reservation, so no time lost - and little lost in terms of eventual delivery.

All in all, a nice outing to a couple of parks watching the spring blooms and to the classic, refurbished indoor market for a very nice cheese.* Sun came out occasionally, only about four raindrops. I'm tired but happy. :D

* PS: Not to neglect the even more classic Fish Church for some seafood salad to go! Yum.
 
If the data about people in line is accurate, Tesla may have received deposits for more than 100,000 vehicles from people waiting in line, who have not seen the vehicle. Beginning to think 100,000 was far too conservative a figure. Elon's comment about being inspired by interest in the Model 3 is very interesting.

What will Elon's token gift to those in line be?

A) Free Battery storage
B) $1000 off the final purchase price.
C) A ton of Tesla merchandise.
D) An invitation to a party hosted by Elon.

Or something else altogether?
 
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