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Software Update 2018.10.4
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Pentium2004
Former Vendor
Be careful doing that if you don't have a key with you. If the car is getting bad cell signal you won't be able to get in it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it relies on cell signal instead of bluetooth.
SeBsZ
Former Vendor
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Not necessarily, in fact keyless driving shouldn't, because that makes it practically useless. Eg park in some underground P house without reception = stuck. That would be unacceptable.
The only good way to implement this is to let the Tesla mothership give each car and app some tokens on beforehand while connected that can be used to allow direct authentication and driver profile detection over bluetooth. Tokens to individual apps can ofcourse be revoked over the API (takes effect next time car is connected).
This could also work with phone in pocket without starting the app if you wanted to.
Pentium2004
Former Vendor
scottrobertson
Member
Sadly that is what it does. Go and park your car underground and try and unlock/start it.
A direct connection would be nice, but it isn't how it works right now.
Presumably the new Bluetooth upgrade that is being put in new production Teslas will allow this functionality without internet connectivity
Got 10.4 as well around 1am. All 561.8 MB of it.
Freaking awesome. Hills on my test course just rock now. Prior 7 times disengaged. Today zero. Smooth in corners were speeds go from 55 to 35 suggested for curve.
This is what I wanted when I bought the car. Worth the wait.
Freaking awesome. Hills on my test course just rock now. Prior 7 times disengaged. Today zero. Smooth in corners were speeds go from 55 to 35 suggested for curve.
This is what I wanted when I bought the car. Worth the wait.
Does any notice less jerking when making lane changes at 80+mph on the highway?
It feels less hesitant and is more aware of when it can or can’t do a lane change. Felt super super smooth making lane changes on the highway at high speeds. Maybe it’s me, not sure.
It feels less hesitant and is more aware of when it can or can’t do a lane change. Felt super super smooth making lane changes on the highway at high speeds. Maybe it’s me, not sure.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
I can confirm that from my perspective this is a significant, generational upgrade for AP2.
Using the gaming console analogy, if the earliest releases were 8-bit, and we've progressed through 16 and 32-bit consoles over the last year, this is the first 64-bit release IMO. Best way I can put it is that as a passenger, if you closed your eyes in any prior AP release, you could "feel" that it wasn't a human driving. Almost all of that is gone in this release. Vehicles ahead seem to be detected much earlier and speed adjustments are more gradual/smooth.
Lane Change: slightly slower (~8 blinker clicks where the prior releases were 7), but much more smooth and less abrupt. More comfortable to the occupants.
I have a few "torture test" areas on my regular commute, this release made a marked difference in all of them:
1) Freeway exit on a curve - There's one exit on my normal drive where the road is sweeping to the left just as the exit opens up. Prior releases would all dive for this exit before correcting, preferring the "straight" path as opposed to the curving freeway. This release mastered it perfectly.
2) One lane splitting into two - one lane gradually widens and expands into two. Prior releases would get confused, ping pong back and forth, and then aggressively swerve into one lane or the other. This release smoothly tracked to the left lane without any hesitation.
3) Two lanes merging into one - left lane ends and merges to the right. In prior releases, car failed to detect this merge, thinking the left lane kept on going - would drive right over the painted line and try to keep its course. Perfect execution in this release.
4) Hump of Death - a brief crest on an otherwise straight, flat, fast section of freeway would cause violent swerving in all prior releases. I considered this a "worst case scenario" for AP as the driver was lulled into a sense of safety and stability from the prior expanse of straight, flat, perfectly tracked roadway. 2018.10.4 handled this perfectly. The handling of these sorts of hills/crests was my largest outstanding gripe with the current state of AP2.
Using the gaming console analogy, if the earliest releases were 8-bit, and we've progressed through 16 and 32-bit consoles over the last year, this is the first 64-bit release IMO. Best way I can put it is that as a passenger, if you closed your eyes in any prior AP release, you could "feel" that it wasn't a human driving. Almost all of that is gone in this release. Vehicles ahead seem to be detected much earlier and speed adjustments are more gradual/smooth.
Lane Change: slightly slower (~8 blinker clicks where the prior releases were 7), but much more smooth and less abrupt. More comfortable to the occupants.
I have a few "torture test" areas on my regular commute, this release made a marked difference in all of them:
1) Freeway exit on a curve - There's one exit on my normal drive where the road is sweeping to the left just as the exit opens up. Prior releases would all dive for this exit before correcting, preferring the "straight" path as opposed to the curving freeway. This release mastered it perfectly.
2) One lane splitting into two - one lane gradually widens and expands into two. Prior releases would get confused, ping pong back and forth, and then aggressively swerve into one lane or the other. This release smoothly tracked to the left lane without any hesitation.
3) Two lanes merging into one - left lane ends and merges to the right. In prior releases, car failed to detect this merge, thinking the left lane kept on going - would drive right over the painted line and try to keep its course. Perfect execution in this release.
4) Hump of Death - a brief crest on an otherwise straight, flat, fast section of freeway would cause violent swerving in all prior releases. I considered this a "worst case scenario" for AP as the driver was lulled into a sense of safety and stability from the prior expanse of straight, flat, perfectly tracked roadway. 2018.10.4 handled this perfectly. The handling of these sorts of hills/crests was my largest outstanding gripe with the current state of AP2.
There haven't been any installs on AP1 vehicles yet.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Thank you! It is reports like this that give me great faith that Tesla is on the right path to getting to FSD.
Sawyer8888
Member
Yes. I read about this issue, so I will be using my phone as my key during the week when I know I'll be parking in the same open-air spot where cell reception is not an issue. Going somewhere new and unknown? That will require the key fob.
I wish my experience with this latest update was more like @ucmndd posted above. However I think I am still working on a 16-bit platform. Very detailed by the way. Thank you.
Mine was stuck after a failed install of 17.5.something. Took it in for service today for squeaky noise from passenger door/ celing area plus a busted UMC (red T light) plus a tight charge port. Also asked if they can address a swirl mark and some odd white lines by rear passenger door (these were defects I didn't notice at delivery but found at first wash)
They seems nice enough and said will see what they can do. Hope I get it back with the update and better than ever.
I got an old P90D before the facelift as a loner. It only got 26k miles but looks like it took a beating. The leather didn't age well nor did the alcantara (glad my MS has the new fabric). It also have dings and bruise on both sides & I didn't even notice a big difference in acceleration using the P90D loaner. I miss my new 75D
What a long pointless rant
They seems nice enough and said will see what they can do. Hope I get it back with the update and better than ever.
I got an old P90D before the facelift as a loner. It only got 26k miles but looks like it took a beating. The leather didn't age well nor did the alcantara (glad my MS has the new fabric). It also have dings and bruise on both sides & I didn't even notice a big difference in acceleration using the P90D loaner. I miss my new 75D
What a long pointless rant
While obviously the quality of the NN output would have an effect, most I what I see being described would surely be down to the code that decides the driving, no? So it has to be a major upgrade in addition to 'just' the NN.
(and hopefully the improvements in the driving dynamics can also apply to us AP1 cars)
(and hopefully the improvements in the driving dynamics can also apply to us AP1 cars)
For me it has seemed like it's the recognition part that has been unstable in previous releases. When lane defection swerves and wanders, it also causes the control outputs to fail (eg ping-pong).
