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Funny, the only time that happened to me is when I bought a Bolt cause I really wanted a Tesla but didn’t think I could afford it. Fast-forward a year and I paid a lot more to get out of the money I owed on the Bolt and into a Model 3.I’ve never bought a car that I regretted owning. Do the research and the likelihood of making that mistake will be virtually nil.
@El joe - isn't the Bolt more expensive than the base Model 3?
Everybody's experience is different. And one size does not fit all. We've had 2 different performance model 3s manufactured in mid 2018 after they got through production hell and both were pretty well assembled with some minor quality control issues. Both have been flawlessly reliable. In terms of road noise we've quieted that down through some fairly easy modifications including door seals and a little bit of constructive Dynamatting. We've also put significant money into the cars in terms of the MPP coilover kits and aftermarket wheels. Both cars are simply more fun to drive and cheaper to own and operate than anything we've ever owned, and we just plug them into the solar panels and when we're on the road the supercharging is on Tesla. We could never go back.First, a big THANK YOU to everyone on this forum. Over the nearly three years of 2018 LR RWD M3 ownership the information on this site has been wonderful and the overall atmosphere welcoming and supportive.
A short time ago my wife's 2011 BMW 335D's Check Engine iight appeared. We brought it to the dealership where it's been maintained over the years and they confirmed what I suspected, namely that future repair would likely continue and would be costly. That led to a long look at alternatives including Tesla.
Surprisingly after testing many different brands/models she settled on BMW 330e, a plug in hybrid that provides the instant torque we both enjoy. As I drove her car I began to notice how much quieter it is than my M3, and how the suspension is far more enjoyable and compliant to experience. That led me to notice other things about the M3, specifically the constant noise from tires/road, which was very noticable compared to her new ride. Once I experienced it I couldn't ignore it.
Add to that the need for new tires (28.5K miles on my car), and a very generous purchase offer (at least compared to other dealers) for my M3, and I found myself looking at other cars. To make a long story short, yesterday I sold the Tesla replacing it with an ICE (yes, I know).
What I learned is that Tesla is still the best EV on the planet, but things are changing. I overlooked the typical assembly issues that I experienced - paint/panels/etc, but the biggest factor is the road noise. The M3 windows are frameless, obviously, but that requires near perfect alignment and sealing to avoid wind noise. Sadly even the 2021 model I drove was far noisier than I expected, especially compared to more traditional brands.
That doesn't mean I'm bashing Tesla, far from it. I'm still on the list for the CT, but I've aged in the last few years and priorities have shifted a bit more toward comfort and quiet instead of pure acceleration. That doesn't negate Tesla's other obvious benefits, but I think that Tesla would be wise to place more emphasis on NVH (noise/vibration/harshness) when designing the next level cars.
The Bolt is actually a decent car and has a place in the market, but the Model 3 blows it away. That said, I have a dual motor long range, so the base would probably be a better comparison.@El joe - how does the Model 3 compare to the Chevy Bolt?
My favoriteMeh... still more informative than those
"Downloading software 2021.mine.is.bigger.than.yours right now" posts.
Fancy seeing you over here @mswlogo I'm currently mapping out my countermeasure install over on RDF for my Model 3 which is showing up Wed. I'm coming from a 14 year old 3 series on Bilstein Pro-Kit suspension (Eibach springs) so hopefully the Model 3's ride quality doesn't bug me too much. Wind noise gets to me, but I also have a roof rack on my car right now too so my tolerance is probably a lot higher than the average luxury car driver. Guess we'll see soon enough...I felt the same way when I drove a Model S loaner while Model 3 was being repaired. So I traded my Model 3 for an X. I really wanted an S but the only way I could justify the trade was if the upgrade could tow. Initially I thought the S could tow. No regrets with the X. But yeah, Model 3 is loud and rides harsh and it gnaws at you after a while. I have trouble recommending it to folks.
I'd be curious as well, but of course, what dealerships list as a used car price has little indication of the price it eventually sells at. Certainly buying two used BMW's (one of them CPO) at our local BMW dealership in the past, they were always listed at retail blue book, but we were able to negotiate down to closer to private-party value. Same with other used car brands and dealerships.And not trying at all to diss your decision in any of my comments btw. I saw you mention you got a good deal trading in your Model 3 at the BMW dealership. I wonder what they will relist it for. Would be curious how much they mark it up if you find out. Don’t think they will send it to an auctioneer.
If the X / S wasn’t available I would have kept the Model 3. If you are used to stiff suspension the ride should be fine. Some love it. Wind didn’t bother me much. It was tire noise. And it depended on the quality of the roads. On smooth roads it was fine. On worn course roads (which is most of them) it was pretty loud. There have been improvement since I had mine. How much it helps I’m not sure. Even the X could be better for the price bracket it’s in. And the refresh is supposed to have improvements as well.Fancy seeing you over here @mswlogo I'm currently mapping out my countermeasure install over on RDF for my Model 3 which is showing up Wed. I'm coming from a 14 year old 3 series on Bilstein Pro-Kit suspension (Eibach springs) so hopefully the Model 3's ride quality doesn't bug me too much. Wind noise gets to me, but I also have a roof rack on my car right now too so my tolerance is probably a lot higher than the average luxury car driver. Guess we'll see soon enough...