Fluffhead
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I just read it again and the language is still there. Search "to ensure that each vehicle"
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Tesla EV Tax Credits coming back?
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pepperoni
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Firocity just quoted the effectivity date above. The house version that passed applies to all vehicles acquired after Dec 31, period.
I am no expert but the link you provide also says this...
(A) to ensure that each vehicle manufactured by
such manufacturer after the later of the date on which
such agreement takes effect or December 31, 2021, and
that meets the requirements of subparagraphs (D), (E),
and (F) of paragraph (1) and paragraph (6) of
subsection (e) is labeled with a unique vehicle
identification number, and
Which is found in section:
`SEC. 36C. NEW QUALIFIED PLUG-IN ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLES.
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pepperoni
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That’s not the effective date. That’s a specific requirement on how manufacturers need to label their vehicles. It has nothing to do with which vehicles qualify for the credit.
Thanks for clarifying that as I read it to mean the vehicle needs to be manufactured after the later date of December 31, 2021 or the effective date of the bill. I have never been good at reading these types of legal documents.
Would be good news, otherwise, would pose a logistical nightmare for Tesla and Tesla buyers trying to time the effective date.
I agree to a certain extent, but the question of the bill's passage is very much related to the fact that the worthwhile spending on sustainable energy is included in a huge social program spending spree. The spending that we are discussing here, tax credits, would have better placed in the compromise infrastructure bill, where it would have had support on both sides of the political aisle. The question of passage is definitely related to the politics of social spending and the amount of spending on the energy questions. By combining so many issues, the whole question is mired in the barely relevant reconciliation procedure.
My two cents, I'm pessimistic about the bill's passage and therefore no tax credits. I'd love to see the provisions separated and maybe the tax credits passed on their own.
I have no horse in the race. I took delivery of my Model Y in early September at a price $6,500 less than the current price and no $3,645 NJ sales tax. I'm enjoying the car rather than sweating out the tax credits.
I am also seeing this after the section going over new plug-in electric credit:
``Sec. 36C. New qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicles.''.
(e) Effective Dates.--
(1) The amendments made by subsections (a), (c), and (d) of
this section shall apply to vehicles acquired after December
31, 2021.
(2) The amendments made by subsection (b) shall apply to
vehicles purchased or leased after December 31, 2022.
``Sec. 36C. New qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicles.''.
(e) Effective Dates.--
(1) The amendments made by subsections (a), (c), and (d) of
this section shall apply to vehicles acquired after December
31, 2021.
(2) The amendments made by subsection (b) shall apply to
vehicles purchased or leased after December 31, 2022.
pepperoni
Member
It would be worse than that, since it refers to vehicles “manufactured… after,” which would mean that buyers would need to make sure their 2022 Tesla wasn’t manufactured in December to qualify for the credit. Fortunately, that is just a misreading of the bill. Unfortunately, Mr Bearded Tesla Guy is propagating this misreading on his channel, which may cause some of his subscribers to delay their order past Jan 1 if the bill still isn’t passed by them. Which would be too bad for them, though maybe means sooner deliveries for those of us who don’t delay.
Incidentally, I’m fairly optimistic this will pass in some form, though it could stretch into January. Either way, I will buy an EV next year, just hoping to get some of my tax money back…
A lot of people aren’t aware there were two versions with similar but different language and incentives. The Senate version did not proceed, but the House did. But is now in the Senate. It’s easy to see why some people lose track.
NoxGrimstad
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I'm bearish on this passing in 2021. There's too much hand wringing and finagling that needs to be done to get those last two or three votes, and this is the last week in session for the year. All the folks delaying and trying to game the system on an outside chance make me a little nuts, though.
Just gonna reiterate unless you are a constitutional lawyer and versed in politics, those statements often taken out of context do not mean what you think they mean.
All of this is assumption and guess until a bill passes. But unless you’ve done your cross checking and fully vetted what provisions are included when someone says Dec 31, 2021 applies to sections (a), (c), (d), etc and / or understand which conflicting statement takes precedence it’s very disingenuous to make factual statements.
When the bill passes, we will know. Until it passes everything is up to interpretation. And NEVER assume anything is retroactive until the moment it passes with an explicit retroactive clause.
All of this is assumption and guess until a bill passes. But unless you’ve done your cross checking and fully vetted what provisions are included when someone says Dec 31, 2021 applies to sections (a), (c), (d), etc and / or understand which conflicting statement takes precedence it’s very disingenuous to make factual statements.
When the bill passes, we will know. Until it passes everything is up to interpretation. And NEVER assume anything is retroactive until the moment it passes with an explicit retroactive clause.
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I’m all for fun!Geez, take all the fun out of it willya
Which is why I bought a MYP and will take delivery BEFORE 1/1/22. As much as the tax credit would be nice… I’m not gonna delay my fun on assumptions about what favors politicians are trading bill passage for!
Hi one genuine question: I saw the "Tesla Vision accept and proceed with delivery" button popped up and so did my VIN in the app. If I continue "not" to click accept, that will hold the order and maybe they will send the warning email later? I'm holding hope for tax credit.
Fluffhead
Member
That does not appear to hold the order, per others on this forum
I was at the same state and just called to delay until 2021. It's a simple process for those of is who ordered in the past few months.
12 hours after ignoring the Tesla Vision button, I received a text and email asking me to schedule delivery...On my way to call SA for the order hold...
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