Thats bad luck then, it means FSD owners get to experience the bugs first, especially the serious ones that cause rollout pauses.
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I'm not sure that's true. I have the FSD option on my S (Raven), and I haven't received an update since June 8th, I'm still on 2021.4.18.2. According to Teslafi, there are several other cars with (as far as Teslafi knows) same config as mine, who have received 6 updates since then... My average time between updates is 12 days, and I get them on average within 1-2 days of them being out.
So people say. But what's the evidence supporting that theory? As far as I can tell, TeslaFi doesn't track whether the car is FSD-enabled or not.
EcoCloudIT
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My X (FSD enabled) is on 2021.12.25.6 and my 3P (no FSD) is on 2021.4.18.2…..X gets way more updates….
@cafz Teslafi doesn't know whether the cars are FSD or not. But my case of
a) having the latest available hardware
b) having FSD and
c) having been skipped for 6 updates in a row
would be strongly counter indicative of the hypothesis that FSD cars get more updates. It could of course be a fluke. Kinda like a rare cancer. The odds are low of it happening, but hey, surprise,
you got it!
a) having the latest available hardware
b) having FSD and
c) having been skipped for 6 updates in a row
would be strongly counter indicative of the hypothesis that FSD cars get more updates. It could of course be a fluke. Kinda like a rare cancer. The odds are low of it happening, but hey, surprise,
you got it!I base my FSD theory on the raft of posts every update on the FB forums where the FSD group is typically first.
What version are you on @ZeeDoktor.
6 versions ago for me would be 2020.36 or something.
What version are you on @ZeeDoktor.
6 versions ago for me would be 2020.36 or something.
In software development, new builds are typically rolled out in "waves" and each wave is bigger in size than the last but requires more automated metrics to be successful before moving up.
For example, you may want to roll out a new build of Facebook, what you would do is roll this out a few thousand people and wait until the success rate of http requests is high enough to move onto the next wave and so on. This ensures that obvious bugs are caught early and rarer bugs that only occur in the 0.1% of cases are caught before it hits everybody.
Tesla most likely have a similar concept of waves except the members of each wave are based on diversity in the pool. You may get some people who drive lots, or some people that charge frequently at super chargers or people that use NoAP a lot. This way, each wave has the highest possibility of catching bugs before progressing onto the next wave as the diversity is as high as possible.
Depending on the severity of the bug, a particular software version can be halted at its current wave and then superseded by a new build. This would mean that those on a certain version would get prioritised over others.
So this is just a long winded way of saying that its not likely to be a simple case of 'FSD' owners getting builds earlier than others, its just a pattern we seem to observe given the strategy of rollouts.
For example, you may want to roll out a new build of Facebook, what you would do is roll this out a few thousand people and wait until the success rate of http requests is high enough to move onto the next wave and so on. This ensures that obvious bugs are caught early and rarer bugs that only occur in the 0.1% of cases are caught before it hits everybody.
Tesla most likely have a similar concept of waves except the members of each wave are based on diversity in the pool. You may get some people who drive lots, or some people that charge frequently at super chargers or people that use NoAP a lot. This way, each wave has the highest possibility of catching bugs before progressing onto the next wave as the diversity is as high as possible.
Depending on the severity of the bug, a particular software version can be halted at its current wave and then superseded by a new build. This would mean that those on a certain version would get prioritised over others.
So this is just a long winded way of saying that its not likely to be a simple case of 'FSD' owners getting builds earlier than others, its just a pattern we seem to observe given the strategy of rollouts.
But 2021.4.18.2 is still the major version with almost 50% of cars still on it.
All the other versions are very limited release sub 2%.
2021.4.18.11 reached about 20% but is now back to 15%
2021.12.25.6 seems to be the next wide release. Currently at 18% with about another 4% pending.
Fair point - I have however only been skipped very rarely even for minor releases. My last dozen updates:
2021.4.18.2
2021.4.18
2021.4.15
2021.4.12
2021.4.11
2021.4.6
2021.4.3
2020.48.35.5
2020.48.30
2020.48.26
2020.48.12.1
2020.48.10
Probably worthwhile mentioning that not a single one of those updates brought fixes to the many usability improvement suggestions I have made to them, nor did they fix any bugs that I ever noticed.
2021.4.18.2
2021.4.18
2021.4.15
2021.4.12
2021.4.11
2021.4.6
2021.4.3
2020.48.35.5
2020.48.30
2020.48.26
2020.48.12.1
2020.48.10
Probably worthwhile mentioning that not a single one of those updates brought fixes to the many usability improvement suggestions I have made to them, nor did they fix any bugs that I ever noticed.
Wol747
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I like the look of this latest one :- Tesla releases big new software update with Disney+, Car Wash Mode, hotspot, and more
Hope I get this one soon
Hope I get this one soon
easily switching between battery % and distance is waaaaay overdue! that's good news.
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