This is not the right time for me to buy a new Tesla

[Ldub22]

I have to say, that after owning a Model S for 60,000 miles, I understand what the OP is talking about.

You must change your driving style on trips over 100 miles. Period.

For example: I just took a 115 mile drive in my Model S P85D. My original estimated mileage was 212 for an 80% charge. I drove 115 miles, and had an indicated residual of 79 miles, for a 194 mile actual. I drove on Autopilot, and made sure to keep it just below 70. My w/hr was 353.

After I took these pictures, I went back to my normal hunt and push driving style, and my w/hr skyrocketed to 490.

If this is your driving style: fast, push, weave through slow traffic, get there ASAP. AND you want to drive all over Arizona, get an X5. This ain’t the car for you.

 

[Zorg]

Ok, thanks for letting me know what you would do. Still not sure what you mean by “deal breaker”.

Meaning an extra 30mns on 6 hour drive would not push me to choose an ICE car over an EV for that drive.

 

[artnalex]

Meaning an extra 30mns on 6 hour drive would not push me to choose an ICE car over an EV for that drive.

But I never chose an ICE over a MY. And I never suggested it either. Perhaps you are confusing my posts for someone else’s posts.

I have both an ICE and a Model Y, so unsure who you are directing your comment to.

 

[artnalex]

I have to say, that after owning a Model S for 60,000 miles, I understand what the OP is talking about.

You must change your driving style on trips over 100 miles. Period.

For example: I just took a 115 mile drive in my Model S P85D. My original estimated mileage was 212 for an 80% charge. I drove 115 miles, and had an indicated residual of 79 miles, for a 194 mile actual. I drove on Autopilot, and made sure to keep it just below 70. My w/hr was 353.

After I took these pictures, I went back to my normal hunt and push driving style, and my w/hr skyrocketed to 490.

If this is your driving style: fast, push, weave through slow traffic, get there ASAP. AND you want to drive all over Arizona, get an X5. This ain’t the car for you.

. I think the OP lives in Henderson (NV), not Arizona.

 

[Zorg]

But I never chose an ICE over a MY. And I never suggested it either. Perhaps you are confusing my posts for someone else’s posts.

I have both an ICE and a Model Y, so unsure who you are directing your comment to.

I probably am then. Too laZy to go back and read all those posts.

 

[spokey]

I have to say, that after owning a Model S for 60,000 miles, I understand what the OP is talking about.

You must change your driving style on trips over 100 miles. Period.

For example: I just took a 115 mile drive in my Model S P85D. My original estimated mileage was 212 for an 80% charge. I drove 115 miles, and had an indicated residual of 79 miles, for a 194 mile actual. I drove on Autopilot, and made sure to keep it just below 70. My w/hr was 353.

After I took these pictures, I went back to my normal hunt and push driving style, and my w/hr skyrocketed to 490.

If this is your driving style: fast, push, weave through slow traffic, get there ASAP. AND you want to drive all over Arizona, get an X5. This ain’t the car for you.

Interesting. I find that if I want to get the lowest watt/mi I don't use autopilot., If I'm careful, I can do somewhat better (around 10-15) than autopilot.

 

[mswlogo]

I have to say, that after owning a Model S for 60,000 miles, I understand what the OP is talking about.

You must change your driving style on trips over 100 miles. Period.

For example: I just took a 115 mile drive in my Model S P85D. My original estimated mileage was 212 for an 80% charge. I drove 115 miles, and had an indicated residual of 79 miles, for a 194 mile actual. I drove on Autopilot, and made sure to keep it just below 70. My w/hr was 353.

After I took these pictures, I went back to my normal hunt and push driving style, and my w/hr skyrocketed to 490.

If this is your driving style: fast, push, weave through slow traffic, get there ASAP. AND you want to drive all over Arizona, get an X5. This ain’t the car for you.

I think comparing a P85D vs Model Y as far as range anxiety goes is apples and oranges.

I do 240 mile round trip (summer temps) and don't blink an eye at it, no extra planning no charging stops.

 

[origingalatic]

I never target 5%, especially in Winter. I try to never target below 20%. You're just asking for trouble.
Detour, bad weather, bad charger and you are screwed.

This is good rule of thumb. In the old days, you can call AAA and they will bring you couple gallon of gas in the red canister.... it's flatbed for Tesla...

 

[Ldub22]

I think comparing a P85D vs Model Y as far as range anxiety goes is apples and oranges.

I do 240 mile round trip (summer temps) and don't blink an eye at it, no extra planning no charging stops.

And in my car I do 180 mile round trips without blinking an eye, but I can easily burn the battery driving up the Cascade Mountains!!

I’m comparing w/hr rates. The total mileage in the battery varies, but the WAY you drive is extremely relevant. Why is his range shorter? Because of the way he drives. If he wants to drive 275 miles while squirting from traffic knot to traffic knot up and down rolling hills at 75 mph, he will need a Model S LR.

Simple as that.

 

[Ldub22]

Interesting. I find that if I want to get the lowest watt/mi I don't use autopilot., If I'm careful, I can do somewhat better (around 10-15) than autopilot.

yeah, I can’t control myself like that. It goes against my nature!! Lol

 

[drtimhill]

If this is your driving style: fast, push, weave through slow traffic, get there ASAP

Perhaps this is not a good driving style for any car? Just saying.

 

[mswlogo]

And in my car I do 180 mile round trips without blinking an eye, but I can easily burn the battery driving up the Cascade Mountains!!

I’m comparing w/hr rates. The total mileage in the battery varies, but the WAY you drive is extremely relevant. Why is his range shorter? Because of the way he drives. If he wants to drive 275 miles while squirting from traffic knot to traffic knot up and down rolling hills at 75 mph, he will need a Model S LR.

Simple as that.

I agree if you consistently jack rabbit you’ll have a tough time. I didn’t have to change my style of driving to generally do better than EPA rating on both Model 3 and X (in summer months). In winter I do worst than EPA rates and it averages out to about EPA rates.

I got about 230 wh/mi on Performance Model 3 on 19” wheels and 280 wh/mi Model X on 20” wheels (summer driving).

 

[Watts_Up]

Interesting review using a 2019 Model 3 SR+

Drove 7000 miles across US and back last week. 60 charging stops in 19 states.​

 

[FredMertz]

Perhaps this is not a good driving style for any car? Just saying.

A little bit of math makes it painfully obvious that people who drive like this are doing it for a thrill or because they have little patience, and not to actually get where they're going any faster.

 

[DanDi58]

I think comparing a P85D vs Model Y as far as range anxiety goes is apples and oranges.

I do 240 mile round trip (summer temps) and don't blink an eye at it, no extra planning no charging stops.

One of my favorite Tesla YouTubers is the EVNomad, who owns a 2015 P70 (or 70D, not sure) who basically lives out of his car and road trips all over the USA. His range maxes out at something like 225 miles. Watching his videos significantly reduced my fear of range anxiety. Also, being 60+ years old, I need a stop every few hours anyway for biological reasons. So I can do that at SC stations near a restaurant or shopping center and empty and fill at the same time....

 

[mswlogo]

And in my car I do 180 mile round trips without blinking an eye, but I can easily burn the battery driving up the Cascade Mountains!!

I’m comparing w/hr rates. The total mileage in the battery varies, but the WAY you drive is extremely relevant. Why is his range shorter? Because of the way he drives. If he wants to drive 275 miles while squirting from traffic knot to traffic knot up and down rolling hills at 75 mph, he will need a Model S LR.

Simple as that.

We are talking about the OP canceling his order that we have no data from. I suspect most people that like to jack rabbit know the trade off. Also you’re typically not jack rabbiting on long highway trips. So the real factor that will vary is cruising speed, not acceleration.

So the argument is really if you like to drive 90mph in North Dakota, then the OP has a leg to stand on and should hold off a few years. But for the rest of us, on average any LR modern Tesla (over 300 miles range) isn’t that inconvenient, most of the time. Extreme temps don’t happen that often.

 

[N2B8]

If you don’t need the car now wait until after the new year. Your car won’t be put together by the 2am crew. Basically you’ll get a much better car.

Demand might go down after the new year and Tesla might adjust the prices or add new features. If the ev rebate comes back even better though I won’t count on it. So buy now if you must but if you can wait definitely do that.

 

[Catbiscuits]

If you don’t need the car now wait until after the new year. Your car won’t be put together by the 2am crew. Basically you’ll get a much better car.

Demand might go down after the new year and Tesla might adjust the prices or add new features. If the ev rebate comes back even better though I won’t count on it. So buy now if you must but if you can wait definitely do that.

Better buy now, don’t wait! Better yet, send me your money.