Have you not tried?
Simple step if you don’t use auto: enable auto —— pop up appears ———- switch fog lights ——- disable auto
Hope that helps
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Wiki [UK] 2021 - The Holiday Release - 'holiday fun' not V11 UI changes and features
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Simple step if you don’t use auto: enable auto —— pop up appears ———- switch fog lights ——- disable auto
Hope that helps
How do you enable auto without going through two levels of menus?
You just gently push the stalk Voila. I’ve been doing it for a year even after the v11 update
Simonix
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But you have to have auto dim enabled in the menu to do that.
Without auto dim enabled, all that gentle push does, is turn on your high beam. That’s the point.
What is the problem with enabling it in the menu and not using it if you don’t want? Is it really difficult?
Can't you just do this, then this and this, then this again and then do this?
Stop evangelising terrible ergonomics.
Stop evangelising terrible ergonomics.
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Simonix
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Seriously?
Because if you enable it on the menu, you cannot use the headlights manually. Which is what I want to do.
If enabled in the menu, all you are doing is switching between dipped, and auto dip and back again.
Can someone else tell me if I have this completely wrong, or maybe my car has a fault and needs a SC to look at my lighting system?
mpandrew
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This is the sad state of affairs! You will grow used to the quirks and find a way to put up with it. Just as you achieve that they'll push another 'improvement'
That's my understanding and how it is documented in the manual - if you enable auto full beam then you lose manual control/override. I'll have to properly test it as I've always just disabled it.
Louis0w
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I sympathise it’s now more hassle for you to manually set the headlights. I’m sure we’d all agree we want our driving experience to be as hassle free as possible. However, I’d imagine the overwhelming majority of owners leave the headlights set to auto and forget about them. That’s my own experience with my M3 and cars before. I’ve no complaints at all about how the auto headlights work; auto highbeam is different though. Tesla clearly wish to automate as many of the functions as possible, and those functions less often used are now slightly less accessible. I’d imagine, with a few possible alterations based on user feedback, this philosophy will continue and grow with future updates. I’m not dismissing your own frustrations with the headlight accessibility; just feel your own use case is not the norm.
It is auto high beam that we are talking about here - with it disabled there isn't the ability to bring up the pop up light menu (to turn on fog lights) without flashing your lights.
Totally agree that auto lights work as expected - I don't really see a need not to have that feature enabled.
Simonix
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I guess I will just have to start using the auto dip headlights then.
Never been a fan on any car I've had with that system. Always dips a tad too late, or not at all, and vice versa. Bearing in mind that I live in the country, so no streetlamps. If I lived in an urban area, it would be much more of a non-issue.
Never been a fan on any car I've had with that system. Always dips a tad too late, or not at all, and vice versa. Bearing in mind that I live in the country, so no streetlamps. If I lived in an urban area, it would be much more of a non-issue.
I’m with you all the way Simonix. I just want to manually control the high/low beam toggle, and I don’t like the idea of having to flash my lights to access the fog lights buttons. Guess I’ll either be using fog lights less, or taking my eyes off the road to toggle them.
Fox86
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I’ve not tried and it’s raining here, so not walking out to the car but.. . Can you use voice commands for the fog lights?
Simonix
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Unfortunately it’s perhaps even more of an issue because the auto lights don’t dip in urban areas where there is sufficient ambient lighting from streetlights etc. It’s ridiculous to drive through a well lit urban area with the lights on high beam and one of the reasons why I don’t use the auto function
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