All very interesting, but I bought a Tesla because it is a really good EV, quick, comfortable and with a realistic range. If FSD is ever fully functional I doubt very much I'd pay to upgrade, I actually enjoy driving.
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What's interesting is that it looks like they might need to train their neural network for each country individually, and this is why the UK is still running the off-the-shelf software from ten years ago. The USA has different road surfaces, different infrastructure styles, different driving styles, narrower lanes, different lane markings, different roadworks, different vehicles etc etc, and what works there probably wouldn't work anywhere else.Interesting presentation from head of Tesla AI (Andrej Karpathy) regarding Tesla's move to vision only FSD.
Bridges and phantom braking featured
Worth a watch if you have both the time and patience and I'll let you draw your own conclusions but it left me a little more optimistic
I still struggle to see how it will manage the 4 lanes (with barely visible lane markings) 'roundabout' of confusion known as the Basingstoke Black Dam roundabout - Christ humans can't even navigate it never mind computers.
Can see the AI is going to have some serious learning to do
No timescales mentioned of course.
I wonder if that rework for the UK will ever happen? I have my doubts. But even if it does happen, it's probably a 6-12 month project in itself. There's little real incentive to pay for FSD until that happens IMHO.What's interesting is that it looks like they might need to train their neural network for each country individually, and this is why the UK is still running the off-the-shelf software from ten years ago. The USA has different road surfaces, different infrastructure styles, different driving styles, narrower lanes, different lane markings, different roadworks, different vehicles etc etc, and what works there probably wouldn't work anywhere else.
What's interesting is that it looks like they might need to train their neural network for each country individually
What's interesting is that it looks like they might need to train their neural network for each country individually, and this is why the UK is still running the off-the-shelf software from ten years ago. The USA has different road surfaces, different infrastructure styles, different driving styles, narrower lanes, different lane markings, different roadworks, different vehicles etc etc, and what works there probably wouldn't work anywhere else.
I'm surprised about that video only seemingly moving to vision for velocity etc so late. And only 4 months. I assumed they've been on this for years.
The claimed human reaction latency in the presentation is 250ms, whereas the FSD latency, including this frame rate and processing, has latency of <100ms - so significantly quicker.And the framerate seems slow - 36Hz for the cameras. Although they have lots of cameras to process, thats 33ms between frames and you'd need a few frames to build 'objects' and track them which is quite slow.
He said <100ms was the goal He then said the refresh interval was 33ms. They have also talked about 4D processing where they take a time component so you need multiple frames to work (so your detection is not within 1 33ms frame), And of course when the clock starts may differ as a human may pick up on earlier queuesThe claimed human reaction latency in the presentation is 250ms, whereas the FSD latency, including this frame rate and processing, has latency of <100ms - so significantly quicker.
Andrej Karpathy just did a presentation about Tesla Vision and how it's the radar that has been causing phantom breaking so removing it should fix this.
I tried to post the YouTube link but there was an error message about it not playing not on Youtube. I'm sure someone can figure out how to do it.
If you search YouTube for "
Workshop on Autonomous Driving at CVPR'21"
Which other cars? Most are using Mobileye with a pure radar based TACC and a camera based Lane Keep. They aren't combining the two to visualising the scene like Autopilot, and have far simpler and less effective active safety features as a result. It works as a TACC and Lane Keep, but isn't on a path toward full self driving.I watched the vid through... all very clever but really says that conflicts between radar and vision caused problems and it would be lots of work to sort the radar out so let's not bother. Nothing about how other brand cars manage with radar without phantom braking.
Then lots of guff about how well we're doing and the resources and what's in the pipeline for the future - or in other words, 'it don't work right now and we don't know when but it will'
I liked his reference to Will Smith driving the robotic car - shame he missed the point that robots were trying to kill the driver...
Being on a path and getting there aren't the same thing. Mobileye also has a clear path that’s vision based. The real trick is not to charge folk for a dysfunctional system until it works....back it up with proven tech.Which other cars? Most are using Mobileye with a pure radar based TACC and a camera based Lane Keep. They aren't combining the two to visualising the scene like Autopilot, and have far simpler and less effective active safety features as a result. It works as a TACC and Lane Keep, but isn't on a path toward full self driving.