[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

[init6]

From the manual:

Topping Up Windshield Washer Fluid​

The only reservoir into which you can add fluid is the windshield washer fluid reservoir, which is located behind the front trunk. When the level is low, a message displays on the touchscreen.

Are you sure the washer fluid wasn't just frozen?

 

[The_Cable_Guy]

As above i know you get a warning as i had to top mine up last month.

 

[MrBadger]

Yes I tested the full autopilot on the test drive and I would not trust it as far as I could throw the car (suspect that for non trunk roads that this is years away!). Might be OK on motorways however in UK the roads,

It’s not designed for non motorway or dual carriageways, even for those with FSD outside of the NA beta. That will be your problem, trying to use on roads that it is not intended for. Any behaviour on other roads is purely coincidental.

 

[yessuz]

AP is OK for UK motorways or dual carriage ways...

annoying as hell with those bongs, but OK. better than nothing. just

 

[WllXM]

In case we needed more proof that Tesla Vision only is a pipe dream

Tesla reportedly saw an uptick in crashes and mistakes after Elon Musk removed radar from its cars

When Musk announced Tesla would eliminate radar, engineers reached out to a former exec hoping to change his mind, The Washington Post reported.

www.businessinsider.com

No doubt USS removal will lead to similar articles in the near future

 

[doats1]

I mean they’ve sold a lot of cars in that period so it’s always going to be the case that more Tesla’s are involved in road incidents.

Is there meaningful correlation to back up what’s being implied?

 

[WllXM]

I mean they’ve sold a lot of cars in that period so it’s always going to be the case that more Tesla’s are involved in road incidents.

Is there meaningful correlation to back up what’s being implied?

I would think that this is expressed in % of the fleet, not in absolute value, but I like your interpretation.
By that logic they had a perfect safety score pre-2008, then… 0 Tesla involved in road incidents…

 

[thax1]

From the manual:

Are you sure the washer fluid wasn't just frozen?

I understand the sensor for washer fluid is to be removed from the software stack.
Instead the screen camera will calculate the amount of fluid that appears on the screen during each squirt and subtract it from the size of the Jerry can of screenwash that it saw you fill the reservoir from…

 

[doats1]

I would think that this is expressed in % of the fleet, not in absolute value, but I like your interpretation.
By that logic they had a perfect safety score pre-2008, then… 0 Tesla involved in road incidents…

But it’s not expressed in %. That’s my point. It says there was an uptick, then states a value with no comparison or correlation to anything else.

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

Tesla did stop reporting their passive safety data shortly after they dropped the radar. I recall reading back then that it was suspicious, so while not exactly a smoking gun on the actual numbers, it’s a bit of a coincidence given they had previously used numbers to show car safety.

 

[init6]

I understand the sensor for washer fluid is to be removed from the software stack.
Instead the screen camera will calculate the amount of fluid that appears on the screen during each squirt and subtract it from the size of the Jerry can of screenwash that it saw you fill the reservoir from…

Not true.
They're removing the windscreen - lots of components gone then.

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

I’ve posted the details under 2023.6.x thread.. but the TV version is here in 2023.6.9 (and not, at least yet, 2022.45.11)

 

[Ashdeman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1639131700147150850

Looks surprisingly accurate in this particular case within this thread. He also shows videos after the car has been parked for a while, seems there is a short loading period when the call is recalling what it has memorised when parking.

 

[Mistake Not]

Some other videos here

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/1207cm2

 

[Ashdeman]

That's park assist done then, next stop remove the vehicles speed sensor and just let the cameras judge how fast you're going lol

 

[qwickshot]

No positivity, it’s not allowed, it will be terrible. We have had 119 pages of how terrible it is going to be. They’ll have to retrofit. Am I rite?

On a serious note, if it really does work as well as in the video consistently, then it may well be a £100m/year advantage they have over their competitors for now. Well done, 6 months late but well done none the less.

 

[Chimpy McChimp]

I will be absolutely over the moon if the new vision based parking is as good as being suggested. Still hacks me off the way they went about removing sensors, not informing me and having no replacement for 6 months +. Maybe I'm just a naturally irritable old man though.

 

[manub]

I just updated to 2023.6.8 a couple of days ago. Wonder when I’ll get this one.

 

[linkinruss]

I just updated to 2023.6.8 a couple of days ago. Wonder when I’ll get this one.

Two weeks

 

[doats1]

I've just seen the other videos in that Twitter thread.

I wouldn't personally rely on that implementation.