Wol747
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>>Software is one of Teslas strength<<I disagree. No one is questioning yours or other forum users love for cars or Tesla. But Elon’s business will get crushed by the Germans if he sticks to the same UI for another year. Not sure whether you are watching what the German manufacturers are doing. They crushed the British car industry not just by manufacturing reliable cars but by flooding the market with the same cars with different configurations both Beemer and Audi are the best example. You can see now they have started the same with electric cars - there is a Q4 and this has two versions both rear and all wheel drive, will be followed by Q3 and they already have a Q7 normal and Q8 coupe is on production. All of them electric with all comes with 2 configuration with four models.
I don’t think Elon wants that approach. He wants to change this whole game. Software is one of Teslas strength other than batteries and single casting machine and giga factories. So he is going to fight using only his strengths which I think British car industry did not do when the Germans were decimating auto industry in Britain.
I am not very happy with the UI but I did 150 miles today in a really bad weather with AP engaged. I can tell you you get lots of time when you engage AP and drive to use the lights, heaters, audio etc and it wasn’t anyway harder than how it used to be. In fact there was an accident just few cars infront of me, the AP worked as it should do and I had so much of reaction time to engage all the controls and come to a stop without getting hit.
So in a futuristic self driving cars it doesn’t really matter how many touches you take to use heated seats or fog lights. Yes of course it matters now but the UI isn’t that bad as we think it is!
Exactly opposite to my opinion, FWIW! Leaving the autopilot aside - it's really a separate issue - I think the UI, the emphasis on automatic lights and wipers that don't work half the time, voice recognition that doesn't and constantly changing the appearance of the display are the opposite of good programming and in some cases borderline dangerous.
>>So in a futuristic self driving cars it doesn’t really matter how many touches you take to use heated seats or fog lights. Yes of course it matters now but the UI isn’t that bad as we think it is!<<
I agree that the UI is aimed at a car which is driving itself, in which case if you don't want to have a snooze you can play with the UI and try and figure out today's display, but present Teslas are never going to be in the level 4 or 5 groups so the argument is irrelevant. The hundreds of beta videos on YouTube show how far the development has progressed - and it's a hell of a long way - but the many so-called "edge cases", most of which are situations that a human handles almost without conscious effort are the killers. Almost none of the videos show a car going from A to B without some interventions. Even tapping the accelerator to force the car to continue is a black mark IMO - imagine the road rage if thousands of cars on auto won't filter into gaps that we take for granted.