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What are your home electricity rates?
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Xenoilphobe
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As an added bonus, somehow Hudson, MA can deliver power for like $0.065/kwh all in, but the best 90% of the state served by Eversource or NationalGrid can get is around 0.33, or roughly FIVE times what is charged in Hudson for essentially the same product.
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I haven't looked at the rates the other ~40 municipal electric suppliers in MA charge, but I know there won't ever be any more because someone decided to outlaw new ones (literally)
Decades ago, I worked for a guy who was part of the 'deregulate supply' plan. They had a report that came right out and said it would be bad for the consumer but pushed it right through anyway. Welcome to Massachusetts!
I am paying 13.5 cents per KWH(after all the fees and taxes) at my home here in Texas.
Tesla Super Charging stations are 33 cents per KWH to 38 cents per KWH here
Other charging stations are 45 cents per KWH to 55 cents per KWH here
Based on my simple calculations against about same size gas vehicles and gas price here, now it's cheaper to charge at home, about the same cost if charging at Telsa Charging stations, and it will be more expensive(than gas vehicles) if charging at other charging stations.
Tesla Super Charging stations are 33 cents per KWH to 38 cents per KWH here
Other charging stations are 45 cents per KWH to 55 cents per KWH here
Based on my simple calculations against about same size gas vehicles and gas price here, now it's cheaper to charge at home, about the same cost if charging at Telsa Charging stations, and it will be more expensive(than gas vehicles) if charging at other charging stations.
Coming from Southern California, I pay 23 cents for off-peak/super off-peak rates which seems ridiculously high given how some states seem to be as low as < 10 cents. I don't see a reason why So Cal Edison needs to charge an expensive rate for Off-peak when it should be say 8 to 13 cents during that period.
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This week I just found out that our Idaho Public Utilities Commission gave their ruling in January, and that's it--we lost. There were 846 public comments before the commission and ALL were opposed to Idaho Power's proposal, but the PUC ruled in favor of it anyway. They changed net metering from the per unit kWh credit that tracked throughout the year to this extortionate real time metering, where they pay out only about 4 or 5 cents per kWh for what is generated, and people have to pay full retail rate at all other times for what they draw back out.
That just murdered the solar industry in the state. It's not cost effective to install solar at all anymore.
One of the really cheeky things in the ruling was about environmental benefit. Sierra Club and similar groups had brought up if customers' solar generated energy should have any extra value as far as clean energy credits, rather than strictly the dollars and cents versus what could be purchased on the open energy markets from coal or natural gas. The commission ruled no, because Idaho doesn't have a market for valuing and selling clean energy credits generated by consumers like some states do, and there isn't a national system for it too. So yeah, OK, that's true.
But here's the kicker: Idaho Power had also requested from the commission that they just straight up TAKE outright ownership of people's clean energy credits, in case they do become worth something in the future from a future law change. The commission did fortunately rule that the theft of people's virtual property rights like that was not appropriate, and they belonged to the homeowners who own the panels. But daaayum, that was ballsy of Idaho Power to try to steal them.
That just murdered the solar industry in the state. It's not cost effective to install solar at all anymore.
One of the really cheeky things in the ruling was about environmental benefit. Sierra Club and similar groups had brought up if customers' solar generated energy should have any extra value as far as clean energy credits, rather than strictly the dollars and cents versus what could be purchased on the open energy markets from coal or natural gas. The commission ruled no, because Idaho doesn't have a market for valuing and selling clean energy credits generated by consumers like some states do, and there isn't a national system for it too. So yeah, OK, that's true.
But here's the kicker: Idaho Power had also requested from the commission that they just straight up TAKE outright ownership of people's clean energy credits, in case they do become worth something in the future from a future law change. The commission did fortunately rule that the theft of people's virtual property rights like that was not appropriate, and they belonged to the homeowners who own the panels. But daaayum, that was ballsy of Idaho Power to try to steal them.
That’s unfortunate. Conversely they likely spawned a whole new interest in battery storage and peak shaving by those who have solar already.
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It's nice that they give you cheap rates while you're away at work, then again while you're sleeping so you can.... go back to work.
andaconda
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Ya, its fun having a company that is pretty much a monopoly isn't it!
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Google search for electric rates nationwide map.
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