electrifyme
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Too much anxiety to have this enabled... definitely wouldn't pay 15k for anxiety either.
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The 2 lane thing is an excuse. Without Full Student Driving Beta (FSDb) , the control on 2 lane is still different than divided highways AP. The 4 divided hyways has the ability to pass and lane change if bought EAP for $6k now. It's a different "stack" than the regular AP that is used on 2 lane roads. Regular lane centering and radar, oops Camera based, speed control isn't that hard anymore as LOTS of manufacturers do it. This isn't 2012 where it was rare.If AP is not meant for 2 lane roads, why does it activate on 2 lane roads? I should be fenced, if it's unsafe.
Seriously, I really don't understand that.
"You're holding it wrong"Don't know how to answer that, except RTFM.
Also, if a wheel weight is not supposed to be used for hands-off driving, why do people still use them?
If you're required to keep your hands on the wheel, why do people post videos of themselves sleeping or having sex while driving?
People do so many stupid things that make it difficult for the rest of us, regardless of guidelines, manuals and common sense.
Yup, driving intoxicated has the same risks as not being attentive when using driver assist. This is clearly the fault of the driver who was not paying attention.Needs work.
Tesla driver killed after plowing into firetruck on freeway
Fire officials in Northern California say a Tesla driver was killed and a passenger was critically injured when the car plowed into a firetruck that was parked on a freeway.apnews.com
At the minimum, automatic emergency braking should have mitigated the impact enough to prevent death but it didn’t.Yup, driving intoxicated has the same risks as not being attentive when using driver assist. This is clearly the fault of the driver who was not paying attention.
"California Highway Patrol Officer Adam Lane said it was not clear whether the driver may have been intoxicated or whether the Tesla Model S was operating with automation or driving assistance features."
At the minimum, automatic emergency braking should have mitigated the impact enough to prevent death but it didn’t.
Um, no...have you read the manual and guidelines?At the minimum, automatic emergency braking should have mitigated the impact enough to prevent death but it didn’t.
AEB can be disabled by the driver. And, we don't know what the speed of the car was. A Model S can go awfully fast at 4 AM.Um, no...have you read the manual and guidelines?
Automatic Emergency Braking is not designed to prevent a collision. At best, it can minimize the impact of a frontal collision by attempting to reduce your driving speed. Depending on Automatic Emergency Braking to avoid a collision can result in serious injury or death.
I have had luxury gas cars that had it. Tesla did not invent nor perfect it.My friends with Chevy and Ford hybrids/EVs that have some type of TACC/AP semi-equivalent said they like it but occasional phantom braking is an issue and they've learned to deal with it.
Exactly, lots of variables and unknowns here...as in every reported crash.
My Chevy Volt NEVER does it. Our old Caddy SRX never did it. Our Mustang GT would get fooled by a tree and shadow in the morning when sun is low. Would just beep, never slammed on brakes. Consistant location and easy to avoid.My friends with Chevy and Ford hybrids/EVs that have some type of TACC/AP semi-equivalent said they like it but occasional phantom braking is an issue and they've learned to deal with it.
I am glad to hear this. As I mentioned, it is "occasional" for them to experience and they told me about this 2 years before I got my Tesla. So as it is for many drivers, some cars experience it, others don't. I have experienced it once, but it wasn't a slam-on-the-brakes in NoA mode. I have noticed a deceleration when the car one car length in front of me in the next lane turns on their signal to come into my lane, even before they start the maneuver. I was impressed with that, but thought I may have been mistaken, but it's done this several times now.My Chevy Volt NEVER does it. Our old Caddy SRX never did it. Our Mustang GT would get fooled by a tree and shadow in the morning when sun is low. Would just beep, never slammed on brakes. Consistant location and easy to avoid.
Didn't even know 'Phantom Braking' was a thing until got a Tesla. So for us, no, not the same.
That's good to hear.Regarding FSDb (44.30.10) on windy two-lane roads, it's much better at staying in the lane and I don't think I've had a single forward collision warning when using it.
It does a cute thing I've not seen before: When a semi approaches when on a curve, the car goes out of the lane a little bit, toward the shoulder. Better than braking!