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Highland is out. And it’s a pretty mild makeover. So despite Tesla now being the world’s most valuable car manufacturer, there are still only four models, all of which are designs that date back a long time in auto market terms - 2012 for the S/X and 2016 for the 3/Y.

The Roadster looks dead. The Cybertruck still just a concept vehicle, and the S/X are no longer available in many territories. BMW, VAG, various Chinese manufacturers all have a range of vehicles of varying shapes and sizes. So what’s going on?
 
Because, volume.

When Tesla started Model 3 production, their plan required them to build a battery factory which had the same capacity as all other lithium ion cell factories produced globally a year before.
Tesla has a somewhat genius business model from that perspective.
Make a great car and sell 💩loads of it.

Somewhat like what Apple did in the early 2000s when Jobs scrapped most of the legacy products and set a simplified product line policy of having one consumer laptop, one pro laptop, one consumer desktop, and one pro desktop, each with a couple of variants.
Build them and iterate on them to make them insanely great and then over time as they figured out what works they expanded in to other products and a much more rich set of variants.

If you look at competitors who do have loads of models they’re not selling anywhere near as many of them, nor are most actually making money from them. Ford have admitted they’ll be losing money on their EVs for years which they can fund from profits elsewhere in the business. VW stated they’re suffering poor EV demand despite the complex lineup so increased prices on petrol cars to prop that side up. GM is throwing models at the wall with ridiculous features and equally 🦇💩 pricing to match, yet are still struggling to build more than a few hundred of each month.

Buttering yourself too thinly leads to suboptimal user experiences, lower sales, lower profit, and eventual bankruptcy. Especially when you’re still somewhat new to making cars and are figuring out how to do that cheaply, sustainably and quickly, and ramp up the supply chain to support it.

Right now battery tech available and the energy density of cells means a compact car from the competition is getting about 250 miles of range, which for many consumers is perceived as a downgrade from an dino-juice car.

So they’re iterating on what they have, focussing on getting the most out of what supply they have by for example increasing the range of the Model 3 by over 100 miles since it launched 6 years ago and they’ll soon package those learnings in efficiency and aerodynamics in to a new smaller car that handily beats anything else.

No point in releasing a suboptimal product too early when your sales are sustaining the growth you can support in terms of the battery supply you have available with just a few models, complexity is overrated.

Oh and don’t forget the issue of having to build factories from scratch. Any new variant takes away capacity for what there is today, is it worth selling fewer Model 3 by converting a line in Fremont to something else? Not really. Hence the newly announced factories in Mexico and planned expansion of Berlin and Nevada to finally start making the smaller cheaper car with all the economies of scale to make it competitive.

Elon quite helpfully laid this plan out way back in 2006
 
The same MacDonalds that has a constantly changing menu and what feels like a new limited edition burger out every week?
Yes.

If you hadn’t noticed, those “limited edition” burgers like the Double Big Mac, or Double BBQ Quarter Pounder with Cheese, or the McCrispy Deluxe are literally just a reshuffling of existing products with an additional burger patty or cheese slice, or sauce, or bun.
 
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These are the big lessons for legacy automakers ....first, you can go electric, something so complicated can be manufactured incredibly simply and why do you need so many variations?

Unfortunately, a century of consumerism has given a choice of pick ups, sedans, station wagons, people carriers, off roaders, soft roaders, hatchbacks, SUVs, two door, four door, three door, sports cars...and everyone in micro size, small size, medium size, full size, huge size. The choices are ridiculous and almost every manufacturer offers almost every single varient . The real question is whether the consumer can be weaned off this unlimited choice availability
 
Highland is out. And it’s a pretty mild makeover. So despite Tesla now being the world’s most valuable car manufacturer, there are still only four models, all of which are designs that date back a long time in auto market terms - 2012 for the S/X and 2016 for the 3/Y.

The Roadster looks dead. The Cybertruck still just a concept vehicle, and the S/X are no longer available in many territories. BMW, VAG, various Chinese manufacturers all have a range of vehicles of varying shapes and sizes. So what’s going on?

BMW 3/5/7

They didn’t have many either. Now they have 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/X1/X2/X3/X4/X5/X6/X7

its all a bit silly in the other direction in an attempt to saturate offerings to either appeal to that final few % of people or provider an infinite escalator of upsell opportunity.

However even when it had fewer models, you still had more options for colours, estate/saloon versions, wheels etc so it created some variety despite the 3 series being everywhere.

I don’t have a problem with only a few models - if they bring out a 2 they’ll have a compact/sedan/SUV/truck - what more do you need? It’d be nice to have more options but that doesn’t fit with their current production approach. Perhaps something they can adjust later on?
 
BMW 3/5/7

They didn’t have many either. Now they have 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/X1/X2/X3/X4/X5/X6/X7

its all a bit silly in the other direction in an attempt to saturate offerings to either appeal to that final few % of people or provider an infinite escalator of upsell opportunity.

However even when it had fewer models, you still had more options for colours, estate/saloon versions, wheels etc so it created some variety despite the 3 series being everywhere.

I don’t have a problem with only a few models - if they bring out a 2 they’ll have a compact/sedan/SUV/truck - what more do you need? It’d be nice to have more options but that doesn’t fit with their current production approach. Perhaps something they can adjust later on?
Compared to Tesla it wasn;t even 3/5/7

It was 3 coupe/3 convertible/3 saloon/3 touring/5 saloon/5 touring/7 SWB/7 LWD

It has gone a bit silly with more like 3GT/3GC (accepting they think some are now 4's and not 3's)

But I agree with the OP, it shouldn't be hard to take the Model 3/Y platform and give us
an estate
a coupe
a mild offroader

I would imagine a M3 performance coupe would be a fantastic seller for one, and they could probably get that to market a lot quicker than the current Roadster which a few think will never arrive.
 
Honestly, the buying experience of my wife's VW T-Cross was one of the most tedious and annoying experiences. Contemplating T-Cross vs T-Roc Vs Tiguan vs Toureg, then the infinite configuration options. I prefer having limited choice. Having said this, I would like a "Model 2", smaller hatchback type car in the Tesla offering. I guess that will come.
 
When Apple was a failing company after Steve Jobs had been forced out, they had a LOT of products. When Steve Jobs returned, he decided the solution was to wipe the slate clean and focus on just four products: a consumer desktop and laptop, and a “professional” desktop and laptop. The rest is history, and now they’re back to having way more than four products.
 
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Yes.

If you hadn’t noticed, those “limited edition” burgers like the Double Big Mac, or Double BBQ Quarter Pounder with Cheese, or the McCrispy Deluxe are literally just a reshuffling of existing products with an additional burger patty or cheese slice, or sauce, or bun.
So not doing one thing and keeping it simple, they're constantly mixing things up and giving customers choice. Got ya.
 
BMW, VAG, various Chinese manufacturers all have a range of vehicles of varying shapes and sizes.

Which, almost all of them are trying to scale down because having a ton of variations does not bring more sales, it only fragments the ones you have, unless there is clear delineation.