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Wife's car was a paperweight. (And not a very good one). [RESOLVED]
- Thread starter SabrToothSqrl
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OMG how DARE Krugerrand assume genders. Do you know how much trouble you're in?
It's not bad enough to insult a non functional car by calling it a brick, but now you've moved on to putting your stereotypes on a human? For Shame.
Tesla states its a bad Bluetooth module - which may be why she's always had a hard time using the phone as a key. Phone as a key works 75% better in my car.
To Recap:
Update failed, car was unable to drive.
Owner is stranded 24+ hours due to failed update + lack of off-hours support from Tesla.
The Brick Police are now in full force, and all communication will be monitored for compliance.
Tesla attempts multiple updates that fail.
Tesla recodes update to bypass failed module over night. (cool, right)?!
Car becomes less brick like and can move under it's own power.
Tesla will mobile ranger replace the module, which should fix issue and fix phone as key troubles.
Owner satisfied, but would prefer options that allow vehicle to be used if an update fails.
Brick Police stand down and order pizza.
To Recap:
Update failed, car was unable to drive.
Owner is stranded 24+ hours due to failed update + lack of off-hours support from Tesla.
The Brick Police are now in full force, and all communication will be monitored for compliance.
Tesla attempts multiple updates that fail.
Tesla recodes update to bypass failed module over night. (cool, right)?!
Car becomes less brick like and can move under it's own power.
Tesla will mobile ranger replace the module, which should fix issue and fix phone as key troubles.
Owner satisfied, but would prefer options that allow vehicle to be used if an update fails.
Brick Police stand down and order pizza.
SalisburySam
Active Member
Totally unequivocally disagree. We’re quibbling over another word now: function. For me at least, if a car can’t be used as a car, it doesn’t function. I don’t really care if it’s communicating, or the lights flash, or if I can still sit in the seat. It ain’t functioning. Therefore by all these definitions the damn thing’s bricked.
So if your ICE car runs out of gas, it's bricked.
If your ICE car battery dies, it's bricked.
If your car has a flat tire, it's bricked.
If your car won't drive for any reason and you don't understand why, it's bricked.
Makes sense.
If your ICE car battery dies, it's bricked.
If your car has a flat tire, it's bricked.
If your car won't drive for any reason and you don't understand why, it's bricked.
Makes sense.
SalisburySam
Active Member
"To Brick, or not To Brick. That is the question" - SabrToothSqrl 2019.
BUT... if your brick bricks, then what?
Like if you drop it and it breaks into pieces, and it's no longer a brick, so it fails at it's function, isn't it then also... a brick?
By this definition running out of gas qualifies as "bricking" a car. Over the years, I've had several occasions where a car failed to start and a required part was not immediately available. I've had issues that stumped the experts for a while, and I've seen numerous failures at inconvenient times. None of these count as "bricking" a device or vehicle. Maybe if the failure continued for a week with no end in sight you can start using the "B-word" but a simple problem that hasn't been fixed yet does not qualify.
Now, I'm a fan of the fluid nature of the English language, but when I see terms misused like this, I literally loose my mind!
so.... Two thoughts come to mind here..
1. "The B-Word" is, I believe, already taken and arguably more offensive than any type of brick.
2. "Literally" - did you "literally" loose your mind while observing the misuse of the English language..?
literally - Wiktionary
Everyone is just too much. I hope you're laughing out loud as I am about this. It's just funny... lighten up, it's the only way to keep sane
Bet TSLA
Active Member
Tesla states its a bad Bluetooth module - which may be why she's always had a hard time using the phone as a key. Phone as a key works 75% better in my car.
To Recap:
Update failed, car was unable to drive.
Owner is stranded 24+ hours due to failed update + lack of off-hours support from Tesla.
The Brick Police are now in full force, and all communication will be monitored for compliance.
Tesla attempts multiple updates that fail.
Tesla recodes update to bypass failed module over night. (cool, right)?!
Car becomes less brick like and can move under it's own power.
Tesla will mobile ranger replace the module, which should fix issue and fix phone as key troubles.
Owner satisfied, but would prefer options that allow vehicle to be used if an update fails.
Brick Police stand down and order pizza.
You wrote "Owner is stranded 24+ hours due to failed update + lack of off-hours support from Tesla."
Does this mean that the entire failure is because you didn't call roadside assistance so that they could get you going immediately at any time? Seems like an obvious case of Tesla provides a loaner until the problem is fixed. But instead there's days of angst and now "afraid to drive the car"? Sounds like a PEBCAK problem to me, all down the line.
Although, granted, it would be nice if nothing ever went wrong with our cars.
That would have avoided all the v9 hate and discourse
Someone should have a Koolaid truck (with almond scented mixin) to go around to the various Superchargers and Tesla meetups.
"brick" when mentioned about electric /electronics is a nice, sensationalist word that gets attention. Nevermind the original meaning (which has been co opted).
People now use it to mean "it doesnt work" which is a long way from what it used to mean, but it grabs attention. See this thread.
People now use it to mean "it doesnt work" which is a long way from what it used to mean, but it grabs attention. See this thread.
lol. No.... the failure was because Tesla sent an update that failed. (Vehicle worked previously)
The failure was compounded by the department that could fix it... being closed.
We called roadside assistance, and they could not assist. (Maybe they need a name change)?
Yes, clearly having the car brick and become un-drivable is the owner's "problem".
Just like PTSD is the person's problem who experienced it. Anything else is just details.
SUN-day Driver
Member
I agree. I only update things if a) I am having a problem that the update fixes or b) there is something new in the update that I really want. I never update just because there is an update. That goes for my computers, my iPhone on iOS 9, and my Model S on 7.1.
Every update after 7.1 brought things I didn't want so I didn't update. Consequently I have never experienced frquent AP nags, I have full color maps, I never had controls vanish and require me to tap aroun the screen to get them to reappear before I can select them while trying to drive (what a horrible idea that was!), and I have the better Ui everyone wishes they could get back that allows any combination of views on the top and bottom halves of the screen. I love my Model S exactly how it is and don't want Tesla's supposed "improvements".
Actually you said the vehicle wasn't working correctly prior to the update. (Phone as key failures) And those failures were directly related to the larger failure of the car.
NeverFollow
Active Member
This is my own definition of "Bricked".
If an owner requires support from the manufacturer, to get it drivable again (it's main function) it is "Bricked" until it's fixed.
"Bricking" does not necessary mean it's permanent or can't be fixed. There are many severities of being "Bricked".
When I saw "paperweight" I read it as, the car is so disfunctional in the owners mind that it might as well be a paperweight.
I have never associated "bricking" with the battery in anyway. If it's a dead battery, it's a dead battery. Bricking is typically associated with something gone wrong with software (usually a flash update that didn't go as planned). That may or may not have caused physical damage.
If an owner requires support from the manufacturer, to get it drivable again (it's main function) it is "Bricked" until it's fixed.
"Bricking" does not necessary mean it's permanent or can't be fixed. There are many severities of being "Bricked".
When I saw "paperweight" I read it as, the car is so disfunctional in the owners mind that it might as well be a paperweight.
I have never associated "bricking" with the battery in anyway. If it's a dead battery, it's a dead battery. Bricking is typically associated with something gone wrong with software (usually a flash update that didn't go as planned). That may or may not have caused physical damage.
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