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Doesn't matter how good a car drives when you're in stop and go traffic for 10 miles each way. EAP is going to save lives in all new ways if it can keep me from murdering someone.
Yeah.....with the NTSB report and AEB being turned off... I'm just gonna pay for batteries and an electric motor...
should start a vote/poll =PHello Everyone,
Just wanted to get an idea on how many people do not plan on getting Enhanced Auto Pilot when they get their Model 3. I have been going back and forth on this. Sometimes I think I want to get it now and other times I think that I should just save my money. My wife and I do not do a lot of long drives and I know this is where many people who have autopilot is best served. Also, I was really wanting the pre-collision mitigation and from what I understand, this will come standard on the car.
Wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks!
There is only one situation that causes me stress in my daily commute, and it's the one where I have to cut across five lanes of heavy freeway traffic in under half a mile to make my exit. ... .
One of the reasons why I fell in love with the M3 was the prospect of
autopilot as Elon Musk presented on 3/31/16. I knew that on the "luxury" model S, enhanced autopilot added about 7% to the price of the car. I expected on the "more affordable" M3, enhanced autopilot should add less than 7% to the price of the car.
Accordingly, I was totally nonplussed when Tesla announced that enhanced autopilot would add approximately 14% to the price of an M3.
Moreover, and more importantly, it is totally inconsistent with the presentation of the M3 as the "more affordable", "mass-market" Tesla. It is almost as if Tesla were challenging us not to order it. Indeed, even though I fell in love with the M3 primarily because of autopilot, I simply cannot, will not, allow myself to pay 14% additional for it.
One of the reasons why I fell in love with the M3 was the prospect of
autopilot as Elon Musk presented on 3/31/16.
I knew that on the "luxury" model S, enhanced autopilot added about 7% to the price of the car. I expected on the "more affordable" M3, enhanced autopilot should add less than 7% to the price of the car.
Nah, onramp from the interchange comes in on the left side, exit is on the right half a mile away. Until AP can handle the worst conditions, I'm not trusting it in the best conditions.Foxy - your don't have to, you choose to. It might be a little less stressful if you started moving over maybe two miles ahead of the exit rather than half a mile? Maybe you'd lose a few seconds of time, but more distance in which to find suitable openings is a good thing.
Just a thought.
I wish I could be 100% sure that I am not getting it... I really do.100% NOT getting EAP for the M3.
I wish I could be 100% sure that I am not getting it... I really do.
I'm agonizing over the decision.
it just destroys my budget. A budget that has already been grossly violated even before EAP.
I love the technology aspect of these cars and if I do end up deciding to wait...I will look for every chance to add it in the future. Just hate to think of getting my long awaited Tesla and it not having TACC or the ability to back into my garage.
Same here,
On the model S EAP costs $5,000 if you get it when you buy the car and $6,000 if you get it later on - the same as for the Model 3. Same feature, same pricing. Turning it into a percentage distorts the picture. You're getting the same feature for the same price no matter which Tesla you buy, that's what the feature costs.
Autopilot - EAP / FSD will only go up.
What economic theory do you rely on for your "distorts the picture" allegation?
The primary determinant for most corporate pricing is to maximize profits. However, the price that maximizes profits is a function of demand elasticity. For a luxury car like an MS, demand elasticity is low, e.g. a $5000 increase in price is likely to produce a small decrease in demand. For a mass-market car like the M3, the demand elasticity should be much higher, e.g. a $5000 increase in price is likely to produce a large decrease in demand. Accordingly, Tesla would maximize its profits on the M3 with a price for EAP lower than $5000.
Moreover, Tesla is not a standard corporation: its mission statement is: "to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible."
Inasmuch as EAP has a marginal cost of zero, Tesla is free to price in accordance with its mission statement--producing a price for EAP much lower than $5000..
Why do people think EAP has a marginal cost of zero? There are substantial costs to develop, maintain, and enhance software.
Secondly, pricing the software differently based on the car would be like paying more for an app because you have the $999 iPhone, versus the $599 iPhone.
The "marginal cost" of EAP is how much more it will cost Tesla if I buy my M3 with EAP as opposed to without it; alternatively it is how much money will Tesla save if I don't purchase EAP on my M3. In either case the answer is zero. Hence, the marginal cost of EAP is zero.