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AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations?
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I doubt anything like that is coming any time soon if at all possible.
I suspect the resolution is just not there.
Then how do "fully autonomous" cars deal with these situations? It's plainly dangerous to blindly proceed in certain places.
Sometimes, I have to rely on hearing if there is no mirror. Does AP have a microphone to listen for cars coming around a bend?
This is a good question to aim at a well known twitter personality that seems to be head of the Tesla Company at the same time
But it would be inconceivable for this simple scenario to be missed by anyone doing this as a business.This is a good question to aim at a well known twitter personality that seems to be head of the Tesla Company at the same time
They likely have a priority queue of "edge cases" to tackle after they get the basics mastered first.
I've always thought "fully autonomous" meant being able to replace a human driver in any (reasonable/expected) scenario. Otherwise, wouldn't it be "partially autonomous"? Nevertheless, Musk says level 5 will be here next year. I just don't get it. All this focus on legislation being the roadblock rather than the tech is absurd at this point.
I was making the case already a long time ago that Tesla's AP suite needs a nose camera.... that alongside 360 radar is, IMO, its greatest omission at this time...
Is Model X (or was?) getting an "AP 1.5" before full-autonomous "AP 2.0" suite upgrade? #11
Is Model X (or was?) getting an "AP 1.5" before full-autonomous "AP 2.0" suite upgrade? #11
I'd expect a "1.0" autonomous car to proceed through blind intersections very slowly.
If you've ever followed one of the Waymo panda cars before with the reduced sensor suite, it slows down and stops all the time when it's unsure. I don't know who to name this rule after, but it goes something like "if you drive slowly and erratically enough, you will have a near zero chance of an accident"
My (somewhat brief) Tesla ownership cured me of my tendency to put too much value into Musk's words.I am now cured and can do critical thinking again! All for only a measly sum of $129.000 or so (sadly not covered by my health insurance).
Why would you expect such behavior when that would be the most dangerous approach possible?
stopcrazypp
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What? I think you have me confused with someone else (again?) in calling me out. I searched through my comments and didn't find anywhere where I argued against the narrow camera being part of EAP.
In fact, I argued the 4 cameras referenced for EAP were the front facing triple cams and the rear (and I was corrected here):
FIRMWARE UPDATE! AP2 Local road driving...and holy crap
I only interaction between us about the triple cameras I can find was I argued against your argument that the triple cameras operate as "one camera" and simply were redundant (and no other purpose). Rather my argument was always that they served different functionality (my logic is consistent in my latest comment: the narrow cam is not simply redundant but rather provides more range).
And even if I once argued against narrow cameras being part of EAP and I now know that it is, I don't see how that makes my comment less valid. It's called learning
.Nope i don't
That just shows you have a record of being wrong and me on the other hand has a record of being right.
I never said they operated as one camera or had no other purpose. I don't understand how you twist or misconstrue what i say.
I said.
Notice i actually laid out the cameras actually have different functionalities, but that the main/narrow camera is the only camera which can go out and each other can replace their own functionality to a certain extent.
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Hm, I guess this is not really directly related to cameras, and probably a bit of old news, since this app was present for a really long time, but I just found it and probably need to really play with it during the day.
I guess the clips would not really work on a non-debug build, but hopefully augmented reality will... right? right?
I guess the clips would not really work on a non-debug build, but hopefully augmented reality will... right? right?
Well, it displays a gray rectangle for me. According to the code it should be displaying a video feed of some sort.
Either I need to be driving it or the ape needs to be be as a development model or we need some (missing) support on the ape or a combination of it all.
Still needs some research at this point.
NikeWings
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Are these what you were describing to me yesterday? From the dump file that could not be shared? What app is this that you reference? Thx
The driver assist app is present on the AP1 cars too, but I only have old AP1 snapshot and I did not try running this yet to see how different is it. Certainly vide was done differently back then.
No, this is a control app on the cid itself that controls the autopilot behavior (to some degree).
I also discovered today that it's actually more than that, just needed to make it full screen.
And you can also enable instrument cluster autopilot status app which is also interesting, shows you a bunch of stuff.
And when autosteer disengages, it also prints you the reason.
Could not easily get augmented feed from ape, so possibly another compile-time feature.
Also in 17.17.4 they took away internal screenshot feed, it seems. Or somehow put it behind some control I have not discovered yet.
Driving with this stuff gives you soem glimpse intto AP operations even in the current crippled nondevelopment state, let me try to upload my video.
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