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Autopilot Fail

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by AlexHolmes, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. AlexHolmes

    AlexHolmes Member

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    Hi All!
    Was driving home a couple nights ago on the 5 FWY into Los Angeles with autopilot engaged and my car swerved into the next lane over and almost smashed another car. Has anyone else experienced this?

    I have a 2017 p90 HW2 Model X

     
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  2. Reciprocity

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    It looks like it saw the old lane markings. Looks like they where doing road construction there or did recently? If you watch carefully, you can see the old road markings heading if to right at the point the car veered right.
     
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  3. Phil Seastrand

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    The lane lines were very faint and there were construction marks that it looks like the car tried to follow. Not surprising at all.
     
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  4. alcibiades

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    Have to admit, it did look silky smooth going over there!
     
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  5. oktane

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    "Jeez Alex, was that you or the car?"
     
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  6. Todd Burch

    Todd Burch Electron Pilot

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    Be ready for that kind of thing.

    Incidentally, AP1 was prone to this when it first came out (it would sometimes even track long skid marks as lane lines). While it still happens with AP1, it's gotten a lot better. HW2 will improve the same way.
     
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  7. HankLloydRight

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    I hate to be Debbie Downer, but it's exactly things like this that I think will make a true LA-NY 100% Autopilot run essentially impossible. Those were just faint random construction markings, but light enough to fool Otto. That could happen anywhere.
     
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  8. oktane

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    Like I said before, I invite Elon Musk to tie his hands behind his back and sit in the driver seat for the famed New York to LA test drive. I'll even let him borrow my car for it.
     
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  9. DougH

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    Exactly. I would never run AP in a current or former construction zone or where the road has been worked on. AP is not smart enough to know better yet. Videos like this have been posted many times already.
     
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  10. VikH

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    A good lesson to not use AP in construction zones where residual markings can be seen.
     
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  11. Tam

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    It's expected because it's beta. It does have limitations and human needs to take over at any time.

    The manual says:

    "Do not use Autosteer on city streets, in construction zones, or in areas where bicyclists or pedestrians may be present."
     
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  12. Enginerd

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    For those drivers who know when specific road markings are going to confuse Autopilot, isn't it kind of fun to see which way the car decides to go (after ensuring no negative consequences, of course)?
     
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  13. ModelX

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    I have the original autopilot, and yes-sometimes it does these weird things.
     
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    It's not weird? People crash at construction sites so often, that some places they paint old markings black.
    People following the lines into concrete and tractors.
    In the future, kids with toilet paper will make some serious crashes.
     
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    were you driving 5 thru norwalk? my ap2 x does the same thing when in the outer most lane next to the crash barrier. it doesnt do it when driving the middle lane
     
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    Thanks for putting that image in my brain
     
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    At least they'll be able to clean up the skid marks. :eek:
     
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    #18 Hotlobstah, Jun 28, 2017
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    I would never use AP in that situation especially with those jersey barriers so close...a little swerve to the left and you would not be happy!

    Reading all these "AP Fails" posts here and on Reddit I wonder if Tesla should require AP training as no one seems to read the owners manual or understand what AP is and isn't capable of. AP is awesome and a technological marvel when used properly but I think some owners think it's capable of magic(tho it does seem like it at times) or something.
     
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  19. malcolm

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    Apparently there's still a need for The Autopilot Song (click the link in my signature)
     
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  20. idoco

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    Never use AP in construction zones or next to Jersey walls...period.

    OT...did you borrow my wife as your passenger?
     
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