32.7 manual drive on country roads at about 20mph. 3 collision warnings in the space of about 200m. Pathetic
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General Ludd approves of this message.I just had a blissful 7 hour drive. Left lanekeeping off the entire time, used TACC maybe 30% of the way for straight boring parts.
Portland Or to Spokane Wa USA.
I was thinking about all the AP management I avoided, and felt more relaxed than usual with a drive that long.
My #1 main beef is lane position, especially in corners, even moderately sweeping curves it will drift to the outside and even cross over the lane line. Funny, it doesn't give itself a lane edge warning or beg itself to take over immediately as it's leaving the lane.
My #2 beef, also a show stopper, is the nag force required. It's such a well balanced car that it only takes a light touch on the wheel to keep it in the lane. It takes maybe 2-10 times as much working the wheel to kill the nags, depending. Way easier to just drive it, and I get to have fun setting up for the apex and driving through the corner (even very mild ones, silly way to stay focused).
AP is a piss poor driver all around. Being better than the average driver (half the drivers on the road?) is a stupid low bar. Half the drivers suck donkey balls as drivers and should be banned. Pretty sad level to set for AP.
I'm done using lane keeping, such a fun car to drive manually, and bonus: I avoid rough patches and potholes nearly perfectly!
I fail to see a single benefit of AP. Much more work and worry about if it will do the right thing. Done with it.
Going to be very interesting to hear what they say, I don't think your car is any different to anyone else's in how it works, and doesn't, day to day.Tesla coming today for a service call to ascertain the issues with autopilot.
Oh yes we do!We also don't have potholes on motorways.
Does anyone know what camera calibration actually does? The cameras themselves are fixed in position - no adjustment possible, so it must be some sort of software calibration. What could that be? And why can't it be done automatically?I think the issue will be with camera calibration
Camera ready and waiting to grab a shot of this dead cert… Now stop line control disabled no driver override needed to prevent it stopping mid tunnel. With many overhead lights, that got rather tiresome when TACC was engaged.I’ve turned that feature off as ours would prompt to override a stop for lights in tunnels or occasional lighting on motorways. But there have been an obvious , albeit mistaken reason for those - Hindhead Tunnel lighting on A3 almost guaranteed to detect flying traffic lights that would have triggered.
Tesla's data reports are not apples-to-apples comparisons or controlled experiments that reveal causality. Drivers turn on AutoPilot in easier cases and take back control in difficult/dicey cases.Driving a long distance on AutoPilot is most certainly safer for me, and that's largely backed up by Tesla's shared data.
Been like that for me for a while too. Last trip (7 hour drive) I just didn't use AP, and barely used TACC. Random PB is almost gone for me though, not my main issue anymore.I want to contribute to the topic of Phantom breaking when overtaking
It was a while since I had a long motorway run, but I did not experience this in the past using the autopilot. The car was suddenly breaking on a fast lane when overtaking a vehicle. The lane in front was absolutely clear, but when I level with a car on the left my car suddenly breaks as if expecting the car to move to my lane (which had no intentions of doing so). This happened more than a dozen times each drive, especially when overtaking vans and mini vans, but also other passenger cars that drive close to the line between the lanes. I am familiar with the random phantom breaking (and who not?), but those were random, not when overtaking. In the end, I had to hoover my foot over “gas” to give a little nudge when the car breaks, a kind of a confirmation that it is OK to overtake. Weird, maybe my car is a bit shy and needs an encouragement to overtake on autopilot!
I really wonder how the FSD works in the US watching all those hands free driving Youtube videos in heavy traffic when my Autopilot hesitates to overtake on an empty lane.
Software: 2023.32.6; EA (no FSD); all cameras recently calibrated.
Sounds like that was not on a motorway or divided A road. That’s what FSD city streets beta is for in which case all bets are off with how the car behaves as it’s being used outside it’s operational designed domain.I had AP+FSD slow from 30 mph to 16 mph on a clear and sunny day, showing nothing on the IP presentation and with not a single vehicle ahead on a straight, dry road. I’m sure the car behind was as mystified as I was. The displayed limit was unchanged too. Sort of like slowing for significant visual degradation, but without the warning.
Interesting. I upgraded to 32.9 a couple of days ago, and as yet have not had a single instance of the brake issue.In fact, it’s worse than the previous version if that was possible.