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What part of the update did you not understand?What part of the Tesla manual did you not understand?
Quote:
Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver. When using Autosteer, hold the steering wheel and be mindful of road conditions and surrounding tra c. Do not use Autosteer on city streets or in areas where bicyclists or pedestrians may be present. Never depend on Autosteer to determine an appropriate driving path. Always be prepared to take immediate action. Failure to follow these instructions could cause serious property damage, injury or death.
It's like reading people complain that they can't use their toaster while taking bath... except the toaster only kills the idiot who fails to understand that electricity and water doesn't mix.
Watching these videos, it makes me think. What about that video Tesla it showing on their website? It shows the car driving so well. I get when they released the video they had an excuse that they needed government approvals, but they are now shipping AP2 functionality so approvals are in place, so why can't it work as well as the Tesla demo video? If I was to guess, the video was staged or hard-coded - software only works on that specific stretch of road, possibly remote controlled too.
As someone else noted before, it's fully possible/probable that the networks that actually perform the driving/steering aren't in place in production cars yet. That would mean they just use a rules-based architecture for actually driving and neural networks for, at this point, detecting cars and lane markers.I wondered this as well.
pretty alarming video
Which is??? Which way?It's about as alarming as an iPhone's ability to fly under its own power.
(Don't be alarmed when you use technology in complete opposition of how the instructions tell you to use said technology, and get poor results)
Which is??? Which way?
What part of the update did you not understand?
- What's new in this update:
"AUTOSTEER WHILE ON LOCAL ROADS"
Please, be careful with your toaster.
So even though the release notes for our EAP update EXPLICITLY tell us that we now have autosteer on local roads up to 35mph, we shouldn't use it because the manual -- which was written before the update -- says that we don't have local road autosteer?The software update screen tells you that speed is limited to 35mph on local roads with AP2. Which is different to AP1, where speed on local roads does not suffer the same limitation. But that still not overrules the manual. AP is meant for highway driving. Take it out on local roads at your own risk.
I start to understand why all plastic bags in the US carries suffocation warnings...
So now you guys have parity with AP1 and you're still complaining? At least your AP2 WILL get better than my AP1.
Actually, that's not, like, a rule of logic.You can either complain about the software being late OR how crappie it is. You can't have both (at this early stage anyways).
From my understanding, also based on the FSD info they had to release to CA, it appears those X's they used had a combined 500 miles of FSD likely on one or two routes, just to get that video.Watching these videos, it makes me think. What about that video Tesla it showing on their website? It shows the car driving so well. I get when they released the video they had an excuse that they needed government approvals, but they are now shipping AP2 functionality so approvals are in place, so why can't it work as well as the Tesla demo video? If I was to guess, the video was staged or hard-coded - software only works on that specific stretch of road, possibly remote controlled too.
Take me to your leader.
pretty alarming video
Blader,
Thanks for posting this. WRT determining whether AP 2.0 is doing any on the fly "learning" or whether it only improves with subsequent releases, we need more videos like this. And what is specifically needed, is for someone to drive the same road under very similar conditions frequently, and post the resulting videos. Only then will there be any solid evidence as to the rate at which the software is improving. Empirical evidence is what is needed.
On the 5-6 threads here where people report on AP 2.0 issues, this kind of repeatable testing is sorely lacking. I'm surprised no one has started a thread with that level of testing in mind. It could be something as simple as recording your daily trip into work, pointing out where the AP 2.0 gets confused, and seeing whether it gets confused in the same place over time.
RT
If I am not mistaken you can leave feedback. Press the voice button and then say feedback (I think) and leave your feedback. No clue if they listen to it though.I agree completely. I also thank you for posting this video. First, it gives me confidence that my car is not the only one that is operating so poorly on local roads. We all want Tesla to get their software right and feedback like this can only help - assuming anyone from Tesla is listening.
I completely disagree with the attitude that we are not supposed to provide negative feedback because the manual warns us to keep our hands on the wheel.
If Tesla gave us a mechanism to provide feedback, I would gladly take time from my day to provide it on a regular basis. As it is, we just have to hope they have an efficient means of gathering the data.
And lastly, I also agree with the posts that note that Tesla sold something completely different from what they have delivered so far. Since then, they have changed the language on their website which promised enhanced auto pilot in Dec 2016. With that said, I'm very happy with my car and I will continue to contribute if it helps.
And lastly, I also agree with the posts that note that Tesla sold something completely different from what they have delivered so far. Since then, they have changed the language on their website which promised enhanced auto pilot in Dec 2016. With that said, I'm very happy with my car and I will continue to contribute if it helps.