Nakk
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That was pretty much the gist of my comment...Naw..all of the magazines are tainted..to a degree.
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That was pretty much the gist of my comment...Naw..all of the magazines are tainted..to a degree.
Yep, I believe it. When he was reviewing the GT (or GT-PE), it shut down from overheating and he had to call Ford. He didn't mention it in his review or if he did, he glossed it over quicky until he was asked specifically about it from another reviewer.Kyle works for InsideEVs which happily accepts advertisement money from product manufacturers they supposedly review without bias.
He's usually fair with his Tesla reviews. I trust him over most people.Kyle works for InsideEVs which happily accepts advertisement money from product manufacturers they supposedly review without bias.
Oh that's interesting. In his GT-PE + GT review he spent a good bit of talking time on the thermal throttling he was experiencing while driving the GT-PE. He made it clear he encountered thermal throttling pretty quickly, and then couldn't even put it into the "extend" mode until pulling over to let it cool down for a while. Then once in "extend" mode he said right away it felt down on power compared to normal.Yep, I believe it. When he was reviewing the GT (or GT-PE), it shut down from overheating and he had to call Ford. He didn't mention it in his review or if he did, he glossed it over quicky until he was asked specifically about it from another reviewer.
After that, I lost all respect for him.
Oh that's interesting. In his GT-PE + GT review he spent a good bit of talking time on the thermal throttling he was experiencing while driving the GT-PE. He made it clear he encountered thermal throttling pretty quickly, and then couldn't even put it into the "extend" mode until pulling over to let it cool down for a while. Then once in "extend" mode he said right away it felt down on power compared to normal.
That was really useful to me. I drove the GT-PE myself on a very tight, twisty back road, and from my limited drive there is not one thing I would disagree with from Kyle's GT-PE review. But for multiple reasons I didn't push the acceleration+braking enough to stress test the thermals. Kyle's review was extremely useful to both confirm my handling impressions, and inform me that if I were to buy the GT-PE the thermal throttling and overheating likely WOULD be an issue in some of my driving.
Besides Kyle's review, most of the GT(-PE) thermal throttle discussion I've seen has focused on straight line racing (drag and street). That just isn't my thing, and before I watched Kyle's review, it wasn't clear that the thermal throttling would be an issue for my driving.
(To be fair I decided against the GT-PE for other reasons, before I found Kyle's reviews or knew the full extent of its thermal issues. It was #3 on my EV short list though. Knowing what I know now, it wouldn't be on my list at all unfortunately...which is a shame because the GT-PE is a good car besides the big thermal issues.)
You're really splitting hairs here. He may have missed them in his final words, fine, but seriously in a YouTube full of Stans and TSLAQs, having someone who is an honest EV enthusiast reviewing cars from a fairly non-biased POV is refreshing.He said he had it in extended mode briefly but he couldn't get it back until pulling over and having it cool down, then having a chat with Ford. At some point he tried to test a 0-60 and after 0-40 it fell on its face and he said something like: 0-40 is all you really need, lol.
I think having to do a rain dance to be sure the vehicle doesn't overheat while pushing it is a big disadvantage and he glossed right over that in his final words.
So to correct myself in my previous post, it didn't just shut down, but he had to pull over for it to cool off which I think is a pretty serious design flaw.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I have enjoyed some of his other videos, but this one came across a little like a Ford ad to me.You're really splitting hairs here. He may have missed them in his final words, fine, but seriously in a YouTube full of Stans and TSLAQs, having someone who is an honest EV enthusiast reviewing cars from a fairly non-biased POV is refreshing.
The reviewer neglecting to mention he had to pull over and let the car cool off is splitting hairs? When one of the biggest design flaws with the Mach-e is the completely inadequate and failure prone thermal system? Seriously???? And you say YouTube is full of Tesla Stans? Seriously???? ROFL!You're really splitting hairs here. He may have missed them in his final words, fine, but seriously in a YouTube full of Stans and TSLAQs, having someone who is an honest EV enthusiast reviewing cars from a fairly non-biased POV is refreshing.
Far more than the opposite. Don't believe me? Go look. YouTube is full of accounts who "review" Tesla models and drop their referral code.The reviewer neglecting to mention he had to pull over and let the car cool off is splitting hairs? When one of the biggest design flaws with the Mach-e is the completely inadequate and failure prone thermal system? Seriously???? And you say YouTube is full of Tesla Stans? Seriously???? ROFL!
He said he had it in extended mode briefly but he couldn't get it back until pulling over and having it cool down, then having a chat with Ford. At some point he tried to test a 0-60 and after 0-40 it fell on its face and he said something like: 0-40 is all you really need, lol.
I think having to do a rain dance to be sure the vehicle doesn't overheat while pushing it is a big disadvantage and he glossed right over that in his final words.
So to correct myself in my previous post, it didn't just shut down, but he had to pull over for it to cool off which I think is a pretty serious design flaw.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I have enjoyed some of his other videos, but this one came across a little like a Ford ad to me.
No, he covered it in full detail.The reviewer neglecting to mention he had to pull over and let the car cool off is splitting hairs? When one of the biggest design flaws with the Mach-e is the completely inadequate and failure prone thermal system? Seriously???? And you say YouTube is full of Tesla Stans? Seriously???? ROFL!
if Ford had a learning culture, they would have known better.
Let's hope Ford learns to learn so they can create a viable EV.
Ford made a few videos with Munro (those episodes when Munro is not allowed to speak his mind) to control the messaging on the Mach-E after they have learned that Sandy is going to look under the hood.Too bad Ford doesn't have access to YouTube, they could have watched a few Munro videos
Nobody should have to watch YouTube videos by someone else of their own cars in order to learn about their limitations.Too bad Ford doesn't have access to YouTube, they could have watched a few Munro videos