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ChargeFox EV charging Network
- Thread starter Chuq
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I can confirm that my Evie card worked at Goulburn, and my ACTEW AGL card worked in Shell Cove, on Friday night. I’ve linked all their serial numbers to my account.
But speaking of Shell Cove, its late night keycode isn’t working anymore. I’ve been unable to open the gate twice in recent weeks.
But speaking of Shell Cove, its late night keycode isn’t working anymore. I’ve been unable to open the gate twice in recent weeks.
Looks like Goulburn came back online yesterday.
The 50kw unit is reportedly still down.
The 50kw unit is reportedly still down.
I had an interesting experience at the Euora Chargefox chargers yesterday.
Pull up to stall 5138 (350kW) and plugged the car in and tapped my token to activate.
A moment later the following message appears on the very little screen...
Charging is delayed until power is available
And about 30 seconds later it came out with Charging Error. Communications Problem message.
OK..... there is a Kona charging at stall 5137 (350kW) next to me. I check it and it is whirring away charging OK.
I'll try again... unplug and then plug in again, making sure everything is solidly connected, tap and... same error.
I give up and move to stall 4168 (50kW) and start the charging session successfully. btw, 4167 (50kW) is offline.
I'm OK with it taking an extra 15 minutes to charge.
In the mean time, I called Chargefox support and walk them through the issue.
The nice lady at the other end says they have no issues with that unit at the moment. She also says she doesn't know what the message indicates and says she will get a techo to have a look at it.
I give her my name an mobile number.
About 10 minutes later the Kona leaves and I can't be bothered moving the car as I'm watching an episode of Shitt's Creek.
About 5 minutes later a Model X pulls up and tries stall 5138 and gets the same error message I received. He moves over to stall 5167 which works for him.
So... anybody got any idea what "Charging is delayed until power is available" message means?
Pull up to stall 5138 (350kW) and plugged the car in and tapped my token to activate.
A moment later the following message appears on the very little screen...
Charging is delayed until power is available
And about 30 seconds later it came out with Charging Error. Communications Problem message.
OK..... there is a Kona charging at stall 5137 (350kW) next to me. I check it and it is whirring away charging OK.
I'll try again... unplug and then plug in again, making sure everything is solidly connected, tap and... same error.
I give up and move to stall 4168 (50kW) and start the charging session successfully. btw, 4167 (50kW) is offline.
I'm OK with it taking an extra 15 minutes to charge.
In the mean time, I called Chargefox support and walk them through the issue.
The nice lady at the other end says they have no issues with that unit at the moment. She also says she doesn't know what the message indicates and says she will get a techo to have a look at it.
I give her my name an mobile number.
About 10 minutes later the Kona leaves and I can't be bothered moving the car as I'm watching an episode of Shitt's Creek.
About 5 minutes later a Model X pulls up and tries stall 5138 and gets the same error message I received. He moves over to stall 5167 which works for him.
So... anybody got any idea what "Charging is delayed until power is available" message means?
Chargefox has been trailing dynamic connections.
Rather than getting an expensive Electrical network upgrade to ensure the site can pull the full power 24/7, they rely on dynamic capacity information from the distribution network service provider on how much power the site can pull. For example, an upstream transformer in the distribution network might have 50% capacity for most of the year, except for a couple of hours on a couple of hot days when there is widespread air conditioning in use.
I'm not sure which sites are part of this trial.
However, it does sound like a loss of communications in general and not specific to the dynamic connection.
Interesting.. this one was Chargefox's first "big" (multiple stall, ultra-rapid) site, and was unique in that it used solar on the roof of the building, solar in the adjacent field, a battery and grid connection.
In fact back on page 3 of this thread, there is a link to an article with a deep dive into this specific site - article is now archived (images are broken) but the text is there - https://www.drivezero.com.au/chargi...an-ultra-rapid-electric-car-charging-station/
Pages 1 & 2 are pretty amusing reading as well
In fact back on page 3 of this thread, there is a link to an article with a deep dive into this specific site - article is now archived (images are broken) but the text is there - https://www.drivezero.com.au/chargi...an-ultra-rapid-electric-car-charging-station/
Pages 1 & 2 are pretty amusing reading as well
Price Increase for the 350kw Chargers... Doesn't make a massive difference for Tesla Owners... Actually just makes the Superchargers more attractive again.
Yep... I can see the FB groups being up in arms about this over the next few days.
But it's honestly not bad at all. It costs $1m+ to build these sites. Commercial charging networks are losing money on every charge at the moment, probably even at 60c/kWh too. Once the flow of cars is a bit more steady then it will start being a bit better on their revenues vs costs.
Even if it costs the same as petrol (which it's nowhere near close to) it's still only the kind of site you visit when on a road trip, when you need to charge up really quickly.
60c -20% = $0.48/kWh
Versus Tesla at $0.51/kWh currently.
And makes Chargefox the same price as Evie without the discount.
I'd hope the lower rate also applies for any 75kW units they roll out
I think it'd be unlikely to see Chargefox roll out many 75 kW ones. Given their new arrangement with Kempower, I can see them using the S-series units which share a block of power between multiple stalls, so the distinction of a 50, 75, 350 kW etc site might be less clear with future sites.
From the email the main thing I got out of it was that they are making a big push for reliability.
I don’t mind a price increase at all if there’s are significant improvement in reliability. That’s the main game for road trips.
I don’t mind a price increase at all if there’s are significant improvement in reliability. That’s the main game for road trips.
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Australia has seen large increases in wholesale electricity prices - Queensland up 285% YoY to Q1/22, NSW up 130.5%, VIC up 138%, Tas up 106.8% and SA up 64.5%, so an increase to 60c/kWh seems fine to me. The federal government is so worried, normally the AER (Australian Energy Regulator) would release prices next month, but the government has asked them to hold off until after the election. Prices are now due on the Wednesday after the election. I suspect once residential prices are released, 60c/kWh wont look too bad at all.
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It's not fine. It's absolutely f@#$%d. Norway has so much renewable energy that people can charge their cars from the grid for 0.01c/kW and our government can't/won't stop sucking coal's teat.
Very few countries have Norway’s unique topography that provides 92% of their energy mix from hydro. 24x7x365.
Um, it won’t. My FIT is down to 5c after being 20c 2 years ago. Soon solar owners might be penalized to export to the grid when there is a surfeit. We need to move to ToG FIT like some countries have - the beginnings of a distributed smart grid.
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