buyleonard
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I did a cross country trip last year. The only PB events occurred with no lead car. With the newer loads (beta FSD), I no longer seem to get PB events even without a lead car.occurred when there was no lead car
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I did a cross country trip last year. The only PB events occurred with no lead car. With the newer loads (beta FSD), I no longer seem to get PB events even without a lead car.occurred when there was no lead car
I did a cross country trip last year. The only PB events occurred with no lead car. With the newer loads (beta FSD), I no longer seem to get PB events even without a lead car.
It is sometimes difficult for me to make sense of PB posts here. People tend to mix up city streets and highway navigation. And posts regarding FSD beta are mixed in with non-beta FSD.I did a cross country trip last year. The only PB events occurred with no lead car. With the newer loads (beta FSD), I no longer seem to get PB events even without a lead car.
Nice to see a posted example. So biggest excursion was 7mph in about 1-2 seconds, which would be unpleasant and annoying, but not hazardous usually (since it would be quickly corrected by accelerator). Unless a brodozer behind you thinks you're brake checking him, in which case there could be problems.
That's the spot where 694 splits to 94 going south towards Mpls, right? What's the issue you're having currently? I drive there not infrequently and haven't noticed anything. I'm on 2022.12.3.20 and usually have it on FSDb/NoAI take 694 eastbound through that all the way to 35W. It always had a hicup for me in that area.
On TomTom, Bestgate is mapped at 35 mph for all segments near that point, but as I suspect, that might not mean anything to Tesla. Open Street Maps has no speed limit tags for Bestgate, for what that's worth.I experience PB at the location of the Pin in the map attached. It occurs every pass and if there is no one behind me I have let it go to a full stop. I have checked the display and see nothing rendered that would indicate a reason. Will get video in next few days. View attachment 835523
No issue right now. Prior to the beta (NoA) it would do a phantom break here. Now with the beta that is gone but I notice that it very briefly switches from the old auto pilot stack to the new beta view. I think that these transitions from old to new stack are where many of phantom brake events are happening. Overall, I am super happy with FSDb.That's the spot where 694 splits to 94 going south towards Mpls, right? What's the issue you're having currently? I drive there not infrequently and haven't noticed anything. I'm on 2022.12.3.20 and usually have it on FSDb/NoA
The braking isn't strong enough to engage brake lights. Taking your foot off the accelerator with full regen is definitely enough to engage the brake lights. Still weird to see the display showing cars in the distance even when there isn't a car there.Nice to see a posted example. So biggest excursion was 7mph in about 1-2 seconds, which would be unpleasant and annoying, but not hazardous usually (since it would be quickly corrected by accelerator). Unless a brodozer behind you thinks you're brake checking him, in which case there could be problems.
AP stack there of course (but with Teslavision).
This seems fairly typical for PB severity. I rarely see it this bad, but I think I've probably had this happen before (though I can't remember that sort of example for FSD Beta).
Tesla holds to 35 fine except for that piece. No light rendered. There are HV transmission towers just before the PB, however there is no PB going in thw other direction.On TomTom, Bestgate is mapped at 35 mph for all segments near that point, but as I suspect, that might not mean anything to Tesla. Open Street Maps has no speed limit tags for Bestgate, for what that's worth.
I wonder if those two tall decorative street lights in the median are being recognized as traffic signals?
Your visualization may not display the streetlights as traffic signals but the car may be confused as to what they are. Send the FSD beta email a note about this. It's unclear to me how traffic signals are recognized by the NN. Obviously, their embedded colored lights matter, but there must be some other criteria in play, else all kinds of red, yellow and green lights would be misidentified. Standard red/amber/green lights aren't a problem because of sequencing,, but lane signals and flashing signals are more problematic.Tesla holds to 35 fine except for that piece. No light rendered. There are HV transmission towers just before the PB, however there is no PB going in thw other direction.
Yep. The best kind of brake checking is the one which doesn't involve brake lights. Keeps people on their toes!The braking isn't strong enough to engage brake lights.
amazing it thinks a mirage is a car, but same tech didnt think twice about running into the back of a guy on a REAL (not a mirage) motorcycle
Interesting that the driver appears to increase the max speed limit went from 70mph to 79mph making the slow down appear more significant. The first slow down was 2-3mph the second around 7mph so not exactly "rapidly" as they stated it was "10-15 mph". But still concerning.amazing it thinks a mirage is a car, but same tech didnt think twice about running into the back of a guy on a REAL (not a mirage) motorcycle
I would wait to for the details to emerge about the motorcycle accident.amazing it thinks a mirage is a car, but same tech didnt think twice about running into the back of a guy on a REAL (not a mirage) motorcycle
Though this would be preceded by furious beeping, if an object was actually detected. Hopefully (in my experience it always is).so if you have the throttle engaged you'll run right into something it DOES see.,
Based on my experience with standard FSD autopilot, I do conclude that the car is not registering some unknown foreign objects. It seems that if it doesn't have a label to apply to tag what it's looking at, it may treat it as if there's nothing there. This can happen even with striped construction barriers directly in the lane.Though this would be preceded by furious beeping, if an object was actually detected. Hopefully (in my experience it always is).