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The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.


Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.


Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.


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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

 
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Wonder why they don’t make the fsd beta versions numerically far “ahead” of the stable branch so that at any given time a new subscriber can opt in and get the download even if there are several stable releases in the in between time.
Not sure whether you are joking or not ...

The reason version matters is not because of the number per se - but what changes from the main branch are in the FSD branch. If there are changes in main branch that are incompatible with other changes in FSD branch, they can't downgrade.
 
Not sure whether you are joking or not ...

The reason version matters is not because of the number per se - but what changes from the main branch are in the FSD branch. If there are changes in main branch that are incompatible with other changes in FSD branch, they can't downgrade.
Half joking. I would think as time went on and the single stack becomes a reality it would be a question of, to oversimplify, there's a button that when turned on checks for subscription and turns back off if false or engages is true, all on the same version.
 
Half joking. I would think as time went on and the single stack becomes a reality it would be a question of, to oversimplify, there's a button that when turned on checks for subscription and turns back off if false or engages is true, all on the same version.
That day may come but as of now Tesla has to be cautious and not put FSD Beta on a new and not fully tested Firmware version. Don't want a bug in the new Firmware causing an unforeseen and potentially life endangering problem with FSD Beta.
 
Enough dillydally. Release the hounds. Either V11.3.2 is a wide release or it isn't.

Other than O'Dowd, I don't think anyone expects perfection at this point.

I'm beginning to think Tesla should have kept beta level testing until after V11 was stable.
 
Guess you not an original Beta tester that got 10.3. 🤣 🤣 🤣

quick refresh for the newer people:

It was immediately clear 10.3 had problems. Lots of people reporting auto emergency (phantom) braking at high frequency, and other glitches where FSD just crashes and doesn't come back for a few hours. Tesla immediately halts the release, rolls SOME people back, puts SOME people on the non-beta production firmware (freaking those people out thinking they were out of the FSDb program), and a bunch of us just stayed on the glitched firmware.

Later when they finally got a stable point release out, they issued a voluntary recall. The media picked up on it and used that as FUD ammo (probably still using it), despite the issue being resolved within 24 hours and before the recall was formally issued without NHTSA involvement.

Since then, releases have been much more cautious.
 
quick refresh for the newer people:

It was immediately clear 10.3 had problems. Lots of people reporting auto emergency (phantom) braking at high frequency, and other glitches where FSD just crashes and doesn't come back for a few hours.....
Yea, that morning I drove to the gym. By the time I got there I had to run 🏃‍♂️on the treadmill to bring my HR 💓down. 🤣
 
Yea, that morning I drove to the gym. By the time I got there I had to run 🏃‍♂️on the treadmill to bring my HR 💓down. 🤣
I went out for a fast food breakfast and got there on beta with no issues. When I left to go home there was no beta...gone. I had no idea what happened until I checked here and heard the 'war' stories. The forum certainly lit up that day...boom. That was Sunday 10/24/2021.
 
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quick refresh for the newer people:

It was immediately clear 10.3 had problems. Lots of people reporting auto emergency (phantom) braking at high frequency, and other glitches where FSD just crashes and doesn't come back for a few hours. Tesla immediately halts the release, rolls SOME people back, puts SOME people on the non-beta production firmware (freaking those people out thinking they were out of the FSDb program), and a bunch of us just stayed on the glitched firmware.

Later when they finally got a stable point release out, they issued a voluntary recall. The media picked up on it and used that as FUD ammo (probably still using it), despite the issue being resolved within 24 hours and before the recall was formally issued without NHTSA involvement.

Since then, releases have been much more cautious.
It's wild to imagine what kind of version number we would be on by now if the FSD team had simply tested making the car go to sleep and wake up originally, which was the cause of the memory leaks in 10.3 that broke the AP system.