FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[JHCCAZ]

And my push just happened... and no I am not in the bathroom

Sounds like a real mess.

You need more training to avoid accidents

 

[Ramphex]

Btw, he is not joking... @Ramphex actually has a record player he can put in his Tesla!

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Crisp

 

[JHCCAZ]

Btw, he is not joking... @Ramphex actually has a record player he can put in his Tesla!

It's always been clear that @Ramphex is the forum's Player of Record

 

[archae86]

big new batch of 11.4.2 invitations in the last couple of hours. I'll call this the third major customer batch.
First seemed to be only going to 11.4.1 cars, Second seemed to go zero to 11.4.1 but mostly to 11.3.6 cars. This new one seems to be going to both. It is installing on my model 3 now. My model Y was in the first batch.

 

[Ramphex]

So this install has been going on for an hour already. Damn Best Buy closed at 2000hrs so I’ve been just sitting here bored, waiting for the junk to update so I can test drive it on the way home.

 

[totoro722]

I remember record players in cars. Of course they were all 45 RPM records, and skipping was a problem never solved.

 

[FSDtester#1]

big new batch of 11.4.2 invitations in the last couple of hours. I'll call this the third major customer batch.
First seemed to be only going to 11.4.1 cars, Second seemed to go zero to 11.4.1 but mostly to 11.3.6 cars. This new one seems to be going to both. It is installing on my model 3 now. My model Y was in the first batch.

When @Ramphex and @jebinc are getting it, it's Full Release Baby!
Yes @PACEMD ... that is a layup for you to comment on

 

[Ramphex]

I remember record players in cars. Of course they were all 45 RPM records, and skipping was a problem never solved.

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Only if they had gimbals then

 

[FSDtester#1]

So this install has been going on for an hour already. Damn Best Buy closed at 2000hrs so I’ve been just sitting here bored, waiting for the junk to update so I can test drive it on the way home.

Mine is done, already driving and on Tmc at the same time.
Baby.
L4 Hands-free version for me!

 

[JHCCAZ]

So this install has been going on for an hour already. Damn Best Buy closed at 2000hrs so I’ve been just sitting here bored, waiting for the junk to update so I can test drive it on the way home.

My son got the 11.3.6 wide release after subscribing this past week. He let it install while he was shopping in Costco. It estimated about half an hour, but it took almost an hour because of the big pause at 60%. Same thing your'e experiencing.

Meanwhile I'm still waiting to be graced with 11.4.2.

 

[Ramphex]

My son got the 11.3.6 wide release after subscribing this past week. He let it install while he was shopping in Costco. It estimated about half an hour, but it took almost an hour because of the big pause at 60%. Same thing your'e experiencing.

Meanwhile I'm still waiting to be graced with 11.4.2.

Yea 60% was where it stalled for quite a while

Just finished. Time to drive home, sorry guys can’t chat on the forum because the car is going to be watching me, watching it drive.

 

[FSDtester#1]

So this install has been going on for an hour already. Damn Best Buy closed at 2000hrs so I’ve been just sitting here bored, waiting for the junk to update so I can test drive it on the way home.

Nobody including Elon made you press the install button.. this one's on you!

 

[FSDtester#1]

Yea 60% was where it stalled for quite a while

Just finished. Time to drive home, sorry guys can’t chat on the forum because the car is going to be watching me, watching it drive.

Mine did to, even on lightning fast TNT wifi... probably 45 minutes

 

[Pdubs]

And my push just happened... and no I am not in the bathroom

Our cycles are in sync.

 

[Ramphex]

Mine did to, even on lightning fast TNT wifi... probably 45 minutes

TNT…. The dynamite?

 

[JHCCAZ]

Only if they had gimbals then

1950s. They had soft springs and real shock absorbers back then.
None of this sporty road-feel nonsense.

 

[Hayseed_MS]

When @Ramphex and @jebinc are getting it, it's Full Release Baby!
Yes @PACEMD ... that is a layup for you to comment on

If I had a nickel for everytime I saw a court document where @Ramphex and @jebinc were mentioned together in the same sentence with "full release", I would be a rich man.

 

[pimfram]

Downloading now at the cabin with phone hotspot. Guess I wanted to listen to staticy radio for 30 minutes while sitting in a hot car.

 

[valem]

So, picture this: I was cruising my way back home tonight when suddenly, bam! An update pops up, waving at me like, "Hey there, buddy, install me!" I couldn't believe my eyes. I'm usually in the "wait-for-everyone-else" club, but not this time. Nope, I'm in the exclusive "early birds" gang, baby! I gotta say, I'm not just flabbergasted, I'm straight-up bamboozled!
The installation process has begun, but alas, I'll have to wait until tomorrow to take it for a spin.
Patience is a virtue they say, but man, the wait is killing me!!

 

[kabin]

Did a quick, short drive to Lowes in little to no traffic and v11.4.2 seems to have smoother steering, accel, and decel versus v11.3.6. Still overreacts to distant cross traffic via excessive braking. Fingers crossed but so far no phantom braking.