FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

[Mardak]

Are we now waiting on 12.3.2 with 2024.2.x in April VS 12.3.1 to continue? That would mean 2023.44.30.x next versions will be auto park and ASS with the latest FSD?

There's multiple versions that Tesla has been working on separately that may come together but doesn't necessarily have all the features bundled together.

• 12.3.1 on 2023.44.30.30 is already out and could continue rollout as is, e.g., to service loaners and other vehicles still on 2023.44.30.x
• 2024.2.12 has vision Autopark although release notes (incorrectly?) show it added in 2024.2.11, which never got deployed(?)
• some internal development version with updated Smart Summon
• 2024.2.x getting a 12.3.2, e.g., maybe 2024.2.10 without Autopark or 2024.2.15 with?
• 2024.2.x00 factory build getting at least 12.3.1?
• 2024.8.x/x00 builds and other future 2024.12(?)+

The recent urgency / excitement / directive was focused on 12.3.1, so that could still be the top priority of getting that particular version deployed widely to those who can get it. Theoretically 12.3.1 could be added to a 2024.x without including updated Autopark nor Smart Summon similar to how these versions already have 11.4.9, but it somewhat sounds like there might need to be some FSD Beta changes necessitating a bump up to 12.3.2 to make it compatible with other software changes anyway. It seems less likely Tesla will specially pick 2024.x features to bring back to 2023.44.30.x as it would complicate update compatibility, but that might happen anyway if 2024.2.x has 12.3.2 but current versions of 2024.8.x have 11.4.9.

 

[GT2019]

I have 2019 Model 3 LR with FSD v12.3. I cannot do one pull down of stalk and enter autopilot anymore. I also have lost the auto speed adjustment feature unless I go into FSD. What are the settings that I need to make in the Controls:Autopilot site to get my system working like before? Thanks

 

[nishant18099]

FSD V12.3 takes exit so late. As a human, my first instinct is to think and start taking exit as soon as dotted white line starts. I start checking if someone is merging on highway at the same time. Tesla keeps going straight and then takes exit CONFUSING EVERYONE AROUND IT.

 

[enemji]

The claim is LIDAR is needed for L4/L5.

isn’t 0/Zero intervention an L5 trip?

 

[enemji]

FSD V12.3 takes exit so late. As a human, my first instinct is to think and start taking exit as soon as dotted white line starts. I start checking if someone is merging on highway at the same time. Tesla keeps going straight and then takes exit CONFUSING EVERYONE AROUND IT.

V11.4.9 was even worse. It took the last opportunity to take the exit. It ahould be taking the first opportunity to take the exit. Why wait? What’s the benefit in waiting to take the exit?

 

[lzolman]

Lots of people said LIDAR was needed for L3 so not only L4/L5. I believe based on V12 that hurdle has been cleared.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/whats-stopping-tesla-from-achieving-level-3-self-driving

First of all, it's The Street. Ahem. But OK.
The next thing I read is that a guy who happens to own a LIDAR company says Tesla cannot get to L3 due to lack of LIDAR.
I stopped reading right at that point.

 

[enemji]

I cannot do one pull down of stalk and enter autopilot anymore.

You need to switch to Autosteer, change it to a single pull, and then switxh back to FSD.

 

[Knightshade]

Lots of people said LIDAR was needed for L3 so not only L4/L5. I believe based on V12 that hurdle has been cleared.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/whats-stopping-tesla-from-achieving-level-3-self-driving

I think until they actually offer an L3 system one can't claim it's cleared

isn’t 0/Zero intervention an L5 trip?

There's no such thing as "an L5 trip"

Either the entire system is L5 (which Teslas is not remotely- and neither is anyone elses) or it's not.

Teslas system, including 12.3x, is L2 period full stop.

 

[enemji]

First of all, it's The Street. Ahem. But OK.
The next thing I read is that a guy who happens to own a LIDAR company says Tesla cannot get to L3 due to lack of LIDAR.
I stopped reading right at that point.

Velodyne?

 

[Knightshade]

There you go again with the semantics….

There you go again with the refusing to understand how anything actually works or is defined legally or functionally.

 

[JulienW]

There you go again with the semantics….

This is not semantics but actually SAE requirements. Tesla is L2 PERIOD.

 

[enemji]

There you go again with the refusing to understand how anything actually works or is defined legally or functionally.

LOL

Some people work on getting things accomplished. Others just argue on the wording of what was accomplished.

 

[TK211X]

Hey if Tesla service vehicles are getting 12.3.1 it may work just getting in the WiFi and checking for an update right?

 

[enemji]

This is not semantics but actually SAE requirements. Tesla is L2 PERIOD.View attachment 1032320

SAE requirements? That is like asking BBB & Yelp to rate my business.

 

[nikolajz1]

Why is V12 so bad now at changing street speeds?It kept the 5 mph limit at my apartment parking lot for 2 miles and refused to go above 20 even on manual speed. I absolutely am hating V12 so far. I can't even use it on my commute anymore. Changed back to normal AP and it was way better.

 

[enemji]

Why is V12 so bad now at changing street speeds?It kept the 5 mph limit at my apartment parking lot for 2 miles and refused to go above 20 even on manual speed. I absolutely am hating V12 so far. I can't even use it on my commute anymore. Changed back to normal AP and it was way better.

View attachment 1032321

Might help if you publish the software version you are running

 

[Knightshade]

LOL

Some people work on getting things accomplished. Others just argue on the wording of what was accomplished.

Which one are you when you just make up nonsense claims like below then attack multiple people trying to explain reality to you?

isn’t 0/Zero intervention an L5 trip?

 

[JulienW]

SAE requirements? That is like asking BBB & Yelp to rate my business.

You obviously have NO understanding of what SAE is and does.

 

[enemji]

You have NO understanding of what SAE is.

LOL. That is too much.

 

[gottagofast]

2024.2.x and v12.3.2 coming to a theater near you in April.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772483368736944233

Does this mean the 2023.x cars will get moved to 2024 finally?