AwlBidnz
Old Guy to be driven around for yrs to come
With the numbers on our car side, down low on the SC, it is a bit hard to determine which side of an existing car to back-in beside that has an open SC on both sides.
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How pairing at Supercharging works
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With the numbers on our car side, down low on the SC, it is a bit hard to determine which side of an existing car to back-in beside that has an open SC on both sides.
Wow, just wow. I would have just pulled out my phone and started recording a video of her. LOL
It is kind of hilarious how new owners are eager to tell me about pairing or some other inside info they have. I get that regularly at Superchargers. I love how they cover their embarrassment with a constipated smile when I tell them how many miles/years I had my Tesla and charged at over 300 different superchargers.
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Yeah, that's interesting to get the lecture. I've gotten that as well. But I've also dished it out but only after seeing that they are really new owners. Just this last trip at a 6 stall where I was the only car there a Model 3 pulls up and picks the paired stall to me. I was just about done so we both exited cars at the same time. Me to unplug, him to plug in. He had temporary plates so I said "just picked it up?" Yep. He was trying to open the port. Didn't know how to do it. I suppose he wasn't shown or didn't pay attention. So I helped him out and then told him about pairing. He was very thankful. When I do this I tell them that they are reducing their ability to charge, not stealing mine. This is at least the 4th time I've had this conversation with a new owner, always Model 3.
Fortunately with V3 being the Tesla standard for new sites going forward, this will become less of an issue over time. V3 load balances on the DC side, with all cabinets working together. Their is no A/B concern. Too bad it is not practical to retrofit older sites.
Hard to say. I think that is still up for some debate. Look at comment #150 and the next few comments from the previous page in this thread. A lot of people have been observing this half and half split instead of the primary car getting priority, like it used to be. I think it's still unknown if this is "the new way" or if it's some odd fallback mechanism that some people have seen.
How pairing at Supercharging works
I wouldn't be all that surprised if this was based on location and SC firmware. There very well might be a few locations that are now doing the 2 car split (vs the old way) as a test or something. This test might also be part of a larger change involving the nerfing of supercharging speeds on some cars. Suddenly it makes more sense to just do an even split of power if cars are already getting reduced charge rates due to older batteries.
As others have mentioned the V3 rollout will alleviate this situation over time, but we are several years away from V3 (and beyond) being the norm vs the exception.
I had both on this recent trip. One dropped me from 144kW to 118kW but I was gonna start tapering anyway. The other dropped me from 144 to 72. Again, both arrivals were Model 3 owners and they had open pairs to pick from. But I didn't talk to them since they jumped out of cars, plugged in and literally ran away without waiting to see if they were actually going to get a charge.
Curiously, the urban SuC in San Jose only delivered 64kW instead of 72kW while the V3 ones in Kettleman and Reno both delivered 156kW into my S100D. At least for a few minutes. All arrivals were with battery temps around 105 degrees (measured with SMT). It was my first chance to try out V3 SuC and I really like the thin cables. You can feel the coolant circulating in the cable.
I definitely see how my car charges slower if someone plugs in at a paired stall. But then I can't really test this any more. My car charges so slow that I can't tell if the supercharger might have more power or not.
There is a way to guess which cars will leave a charging station soon. The flash rate of the green ring around the charge port is fast when early in the charge cycle, then progressively slower as the car becomes more fully charged. Cars with slowly flashing green rings should be leaving soon. Fast flashing means they are just getting started with their charge.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
The charging ring only lights up when the key fob is near or the car is unlocked.
If owner plugs in and walks away, you won't see the charging ring rate.
Charging ring turning off when you walk away must be a new feature. Mine is on all the time.
Ciaopec
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Not a new feature that I know of. Mine has done that since new 4 years ago.
It's certainly not new--been that way for many years.
Then your car has a problem if it's never turning off.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Is that because you're always nearby with your key fob?
Have you seen your charging ring light up when the car is locked and you're hundreds of feet away?
If you are standing nearby, likely with the fob in your pocket, the light will be lit. But it is completely out when the car its locked. There has been no change to this feature since 2015 at least (my old S did the same thing).
Thanks for mentioning this. I must be very oblivious; I've never paid enough attention to notice this pattern. Helpful tip!
Ciaopec
Active Member
Great advice if someone is in the unlocked car or standing near that car with a recognizable key otherwise you are never going to see that ring flash.
You can deduce something on a J1772 or Tesla Destination charger because there is a chance you will see a charge light or the green sequenced lights but not on the car's charge ring unless the car is unlocked.
EDIT: I thought I had read through the entire thread. My bad. Post #171 is incorrect; Post #173 essentially
answered as I did. More correctly: I answered as @HankLloydRright had already stated in post #173.
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