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Jaguar I-Pace
- Thread starter AnxietyRanger
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Sorry, I'm on full-on OCD puzzle mode:
It looks like 180 - 183 highway miles, plus 40 miles of Chunnel, plus 6 to 9 of bits and bobs.
Dull details:
The satnav shows the start point, and the graphics show the route. So some Googling gets:
6.3 miles in London
19.9 miles of dual carriageway (~ = state highway) A2
41.2 miles of motorway (~= interstate) M2 and M20
39.8 miles of actual Chunnel, incl. entry/exit complexes
196km (121.5mi) of French and Belgian Autoroute, on Euroroute 20
~5km ( 3.5 mi) of urban dual carriageway - I'm assuming they head down the R10
I tried to work out the actual end-point using Streetview, but didn't spot it.
WannabeOwner
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This is where I got to on OCD
0:39 Battery pre-conditioned
0:40 ECO set
I'd also do pre-condition and Range Mode for a max-range journey
i-Pace usable battery 84 kWh
Google Maps London to Tunnel 106km / 66 miles, range drops from 100% to 70% - I make that 380 Wh/mile
ABRP predicts the same 70% arrival for an MS 90 battery, so seems reasonable.
Drive through tunnel 50.5 km / 31 miles. Not sure you'd even be able to get up to 20 MPH in there ... so say 6 kWh
Google Maps Tunnel to Brussels 203 km / 126 miles - assume 63% - 8% - I make that 367 Wh/mile
ABRP predicts 63% to 5% for an MS 90 battery, i-Pace arrived at 8%. I'll eat my hat if they didn't hit Traffic and some Roadworks somewhere on that route, which would have saved a bit of range and could easily account for the saving of 3% - actually almost certainly saving would be greater (i.e. my real world journey delays compared to ABRP "clear road" prediction)
My total is 6 miles short. Some of that will be the "Chunnel, entry/exit complexes",a nd I just picked "London" and "Brussels" for Gogole maps so some wiggle at end end
So on that basis the i-Pace 90 has similar range to the MS 90. i-Pace has less weight, slightly worse CD, more modern/efficient motors
Previous i-Pace range tests have been poor; Has there been an announcement from Jaguar that they have improved Range via Firmware update? Or should I go with conspiracy theory that they drove at a leisurely speed? ...
My thinking currently is a bit of improvement from production-release firmware, plus a bigger difference between Jag's Eco mode and its "drive like it a Jag" mode.
Coches.net were not in Eco. Chunnel Challenge was in Eco.
I don't know anything about the Ipace, but I was trying to talk my neighbor into a Model S and she ended up getting an I-Pace. Dealer telling her February 2019 delivery.
Driver Dave
Member
...when the dealer will skim money off the deal and send her on her way without a charging network.
I think it is the size of MS that makes people look for alternatives. Which is funny because Jaguar marketing tries to compare it to MX while the car is of the size of M3.
As many said before I-pace will find itself competing with Model 3 once it arrives.
As many said before I-pace will find itself competing with Model 3 once it arrives.
One I hadn't spotted earlier:
277 mile total range implied at 40% SoC (based on 169km remaining) (blink and you'll miss it display @ 1:18)
Eco + Smart Climate seem to make a big difference
p.s. Found the end point - it's in the Press release - it's Mon des Arts.
So it's Sumner St to Mon Des Arts, and Google shows the same route for that as I had found. The highway miles are unchanged, afaict
WannabeOwner
Well-Known Member
AFAIK ABRP would not be considering Range Mode in any simulation, so that might be a difference, and interesting point that ECO might make the difference between Coches.net test and Chunnel test; makes sense.
Range Mode of dubious benefit on Tesla except P-Model I think? I always use it on range-critical journeys, but without giving any thought to whether it makes enough difference to be needed and whether I'm suffering e.g. cold-feet as a consequence.
My in-range journeys are different consumption to range-critical ones. I don't drive-like-a-granny on range-critical, but I tend to be on highway on cruise-control so optimal driving; whereas on the short-journey country lanes I might "push on a bit".
I don't see any problem in having a "Normal" and "Range critical" setting. On Tesla you can charge to 100% and use Range Mode.
On a car with no adjustable battery-charge percentage presumably you have a conservative top-buffer so lose the ability to be able to grab another 11% of range (compared to daily 90% charging)
Also lose the ability to charge to 50% when car parked up for long periods ...
But I also think that being able to fiddle with percentage makes it geeky.
Perhaps "Parked up for long time" (50%), "daily" (90%), "Trip" (100%) settings are all that are required.
