deonb
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You mean like: 'high energy recharge option'?
I think it refers to the picture being the hero, as per the "hero shot" definition of Urban Dictionary: "The best picture of a series, often chosen to represent the whole series."
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June 20th Speculation
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You mean like: 'high energy recharge option'?
I think it refers to the picture being the hero, as per the "hero shot" definition of Urban Dictionary: "The best picture of a series, often chosen to represent the whole series."
In design and advertising the "hero image" is the main image that will draw attention. This is a very common term in advertising, design, web, etc.
Would you pay for it with a mouse? Would you pay for it in a house?
Would you pay for it with a fox? In a box?
On a train, in the rain?
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The cables from charging port do not go directly to the battery. There is some sort of switching device involved to route current to the battery when car is connected to DC, and to the on-board charger when car is connected to AC
Cables from battery to the Inverter are sized to carry 300kW only for short periods of time, most likely seconds (0 to 60 time for P85 is 4.2Sec). The average (continuous) current draw depends on how one drives. Assuming energy consumption of 500Wh/mile and 2x margin will yield 1kWh/mile. At an average speed of 80mph the energy consumed over one hour would be 80 kWh; the corresponding power would be 80kW, not 300kW. This is really conservative number, as at this rate the battery would be exhausted in about one hour. If one assumes full 300kW, the battery would be discharged in 17 minutes.
The sizing of the cables involves both current and time - cables sized to carry 300kW for one minute will be smaller that cables sized to carry 120kW for 30 minutes.
There are a lot of assumptions in your post that are not accurate.
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I went to check it out last night. Had never been there before, but it looks the same as in old pictures and there didn't seem to be any construction or any indications of imminent work commencing. The Superchargers look the same as the others I've been to. Based on that, I'm thinking it might be mobile swapping (if it is swapping).
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Could anybody who received the email perhaps attach the whole email to the thread? Or better, a screenshot of the email?
Thanks!
deonb
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Ahh. So the filename was hidden unless you dug into the HTML of the email? There's not direct URL?
It looks like the meeting is going to be in the design studio in Hawthorne and NOT at the supercharger station. Now that someone posted the entire invitation.
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It's because some (most?) people think it's a bad idea and clinging to any hope that it isn't so.
But speaking of truths - account for "under your nose" and "throughout the country" in the context of battery swapping? It's not quite a "slap in the face with the truth".
If the design studio is the building where they have the model of the Model X, the entrance is about 10-20 feet from the Superchargers.
I'm in the camp of it's definitely a battery swap (anything who thinks otherwise right now is insane) and I also don't like it if it is as I imagine. Now, I'm not very imaginative so I'm ready to be pleasantly surprised. I'm holding my TSLA regardless.
It just seems like any major battery swap infrastructure creates a whole lot of new risk for a company that has plenty of risk. And just showing it off to show it off as potential but not a product seems ridiculous.
Tesla knows what they're doing here so I'm going blindly have faith. But the real discussion should now be:
Why battery swapping? How will it be deployed? Is there another reason they're doing this we haven't thought of? How does this effect Tesla in China - a place considering battery swapping as the EV standard?
deonb
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Ditto. I've given up on hoping for superfast charging. I'm still hanging on to Al-air a bit "it's still swapping!", but I'm resigned to the fact that it's most likely big-pack swapping.
The how is better discussed on Citizen-T's "how" thread:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/show...is-Coming-Discuss-how-it-will-be-accomplished
As far as surprises are concerned, I think TMC has generally been more creative than Tesla up to date. Or let's just say, we're less constrained by logic (and finances)...
TMC 2nd: Lease!
Tesla 2nd: Almost a lease.
Tesla 2nd (corrected): Meant to say ...
TMC 3rd: Free service!
Tesla 3rd: Paid for, but optional service.
TMC 4th: 20 new SuperCharger locations immediately!
Tesla 4th: No new ones yet, but updated the web site.
TMC 5th: Battery swapping at every supercharger location! Grid storage when batteries are not in use.
Tesla 5th: ...
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After reading a lot of post and article looks like battery swapping is out of a window (from my observation) and fast charging looks real (easy to demonstrate & so does battery swapping)
I prefer battery swapping because if you are going for a long trip (do a couple of times a year) you can swap 500 miles battery (great for Gen 3) and return after a trip. If tesla provides such an option for free or minimal charges per swap, it will be great for model three customers.
I prefer battery swapping because if you are going for a long trip (do a couple of times a year) you can swap 500 miles battery (great for Gen 3) and return after a trip. If tesla provides such an option for free or minimal charges per swap, it will be great for model three customers.
Doesn't the image name, the SEC filing and the recently upgraded super charging sort of provide the only rational evidence? I think at this point if you're still developing other theories that are not related to swapping, you're crazy. Or insane. Or mad. etc.
I've got one more piece of evidence that sealed the deal for me. I'll share it soon. Just need to confirm first when Elon Musk said he needed to keep a couple cards in his best when recently asked about the 5th announcement. Anyone remember when that was?
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