EVNow
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How do you edit Google Maps ? In OpenStreet, you have to register and login. Then you can (see the help on how to edit).
ps : By editing Google Maps, do you mean suggesting an edit ?
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ps : By editing Google Maps, do you mean suggesting an edit ?
old pilot
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Yes I did login but could not find an edit tool for speed limits. On google maps, as with OSM, you must register and sign in and then you can select a road under edit and then type in the correction to speed limit. I have been successful on google maps in editing things. Because I have seen no updates to maps in Tesla maps I cannot say if google or OSM is the source of information.How do you edit Google Maps ? In OpenStreet, you have to register and login. Then you can (see the help on how to edit).
TresLA
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I've noticed how I'm instinctively glancing at the FSD beta path/route visualization (that dashed/dotted path line) to see how much it's jumping around (left, right, or just slightly right vs more right). Based on how steady that path indicator is, gives me more or less confidence in whether the car will pick the right choice. For example in parking lots often it's jumping all over the place to the point where I don't even know whether it's going to turn left or right at the end of the aisle ("T"). It almost seems random when it does pick the correct direction instead of going the wrong way around a circle/parking lot median. But on streets with clearly marked lanes (and probably up-to-date map info), that path planning dashed/dotted line is solid and colored, so I instinctively relax as it comes to an intersection or picks the lane, or makes a turn, etc.
TresLA
Member
Only one that I've heard of so far. The YouTuber, Tesla blogger, influencer Tesmanian on Twitter has a yoke and beta.
EVNow
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Once you click on edit and choose "edit in browser" - you should see all the metadata for the steet. Expand Tags and edit "maxspeed".
TresLA
Member
In our Model 3, I prefer to disengage AP/NoA (and now FSD beta/NoA) using the gear stalk (i.e. - tip the stalk up one notch/tick/step). Combined with instinctively pressing the accelerator pedal to match the current speed, it's a smoother transition from car control to manual/human control. So my question is: how else besides steering wheel torque and brake pedal can AP/NoA/FSD beta be cancelled/disengaged (since there are no stalks)?
From the manual it looks like there's no way to cancel it that's equivalent to using the stalk:
- You start steering manually.
- You press the brake pedal.
- The maximum speed that Autosteer supports–90 mph (150 km/h)–is exceeded.
- You shift into a different gear.
- A door is opened.
- An Automatic Emergency Braking event occurs (see Collision Avoidance Assist).
I'm assuming it also cancels if your airbags deploy.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
It's not you. The Tesla map database has not been updated recently and won't reflect any changes made on OSM.
I think we're acclimating. When presented with a new task, we generally want to take it slowly at first, but FSD doesn't care about what we want.
Have no opinion on student driver sign.
I find that both left and right turns are squared off. It goes straight for awhile, and then has to turn really sharply and then straightens out again. This is opposed to how I would normally make a larger radius circle that connects the two roads, starting the turn earlier and ending it later. It often drives through the road debris that collects on the outside of the turns. I expect more flats.
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jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
No one outside of Tesla knows for sure where the speed limit data comes from. See here for example:
Thread 'OpenStreetMaps and Smart Summon'
OpenStreetMaps and Smart Summon
1 - I'd say no. Didn't drive like a sloth although others could disagree I suppose.. I did rachet back my tendency to take curves fast as I probably wouldn't have made it otherwise. Always regen brake anyway so no change there ( the one time I had to use a brake pedal I got a ding). I see over aggressive in a couple places.
a - around tight curves. previous AP & curr beta scares the crap out of me but that is probably a control issue. It's probably no faster than when I'm doing it.
b - as others have stated, it might take its good old time going around a corner and part way though gives it much more throttle.
c - lane changes tighter than I normally do
d - agressively stops maybe 15-20 feet before a stop sign then creeps up to it. Old behavior was to aggressively stop at the line. I like a more gradual constant slow down. Comes from my ICE days trying hi-mile
2 - No. I only predict trouble & hassassment.
3 - I haven't seen that. Jerky cornering yes but none so far that I thought I'd nail the curb. I do that just fine under manual control thank-you
EVNow
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They have probably spent a lot of time finetuning left turns - and not much on right turns.
BTW, I think the right turn is very aggressive too - but only while going into higher speed roads (like one from 25 to 35), esp. after a stop. It might need to be aggressive to make it in time if there is traffic coming - but looks like they haven't much thought to right turns when there is no traffic coming from the left.
I THINK it comes from TomTom maps, this is from dumps I've seen of the car's firmware logs. OSM/Valhalla is used for turn-by-turn routes. There's also crowdsourced speeds on highway ramps that comes from the Tesla fleet.
old pilot
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This comment sums up my biggest complaint with drive by wire, which precedes our Teslas. When there was linkage to the fuel pump, the accelerator pedal would already be where it needed to be, so you'd simply put your foot there to hold it before cancelling cruise control. I miss that, but it would be even more likely today with phantom braking and the traffic light beta slowing for yellow flashing signals, because you could just have your foot in the right place instead of needing to find it and having the associated harshness.
My best overall description of FSD Beta 10.2: Compared to wide-release-AP, it's 100x better/more chill/safer at performing the previous functions (goin straight, goin through greens, stopping nice and early for reds, looking well ahead to determine lane lines and traffic, etc.) and 100x worse/scarier/more dangerous at the new stuff (swerving on turns, sideswiping traffic on dual-turn lanes, attempting murder at unprotected intersections, choosing the wrong lane to be in constantly). It's like AP to the extremes. Whereas wide-AP gets scared of an intersection, brakes, rolls up into a ball and cries itself to sleep, FSD Beta chugs a vodka-redbull, pulls it's c*** out, and says F it let's try this s***.
Sprained my ankle playing basketball last night and Beta did a great job getting me home. 20 miles of driving yesterday mostly on Beta. My score did drop to 99 overall due to a 96 yesterday; presumably I got dinged for some of my disengagements.
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