I think they plan to offer air suspension on the 3 eventually...
You gotta watch out for that "or so" part coming from Musk
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I think they plan to offer air suspension on the 3 eventually...
Coils vs air suspension. Coils always will feel more sporty and in tuned with the pavement
Just like how some people don’t like the pillowy bouncy ride of air suspension.
Consider it feeling more “sporty”
Sorry but that generalization is absolutely wrong.That's the nature of coil suspension and many love what you are experiencing (as negative for you but positive for them) right now!
Loss? I would think gain would be more likely.Respectfully, but totally and strongly disagree, based on street and test-track experience.
Before taking such a loss on an entire vehicle, I repeat the value of first changing tires.
If LeBron didn't play well in wing-tips, you would trade him before giving him basketball sneakers?
Sorry but that generalization is absolutely wrong.
Mercedes c and e class non sport coil suspensions like I´ve had them the last 10+ years are VERY smooth even on bad roads.
Stiffness with coil suspension isn`t due to shortcomings of the tech, it`s (imho) very bad intentional "sporty" design.
I have no idea why some manufacturers think the normal communter would gladly accept to feel every pebble on the street just to get the highest possible curve speeds......
Anyways, it´s good to know that the M3 standard suspension is so stiff....that`s a very big minus and makes a test drive before buying one even more mandatory to me.
I think you will love if Hwy 17 is your daily route. Both for curves and for finding the gaps between other cars and the gravel trucks. This car has enthusiasm for hills & curves, even on 18's.My daily commute is over a windy mountain highway, so handling on curves has always been one of my primary considerations for cars (along with responsive acceleration, which is why a Tesla beats out any ICE with gears). The Model S is fine, but a bit too heavy to carve the curves as well as I would like. I'm very excited about what I hear with regards to the Model 3.
I think you will love if Hwy 17 is your daily route. Both for curves and for finding the gaps between other cars and the gravel trucks. This car has enthusiasm for hills & curves, even on 18's.
I smell and competitor. First time poster is a previous Tesla owner? No pics? Hmmmmmm.Wait a minute. You are a Tesla owner and you say, "...I took it into the DEALERSHIP..."????? How can you own a Tesla and refer to their service centers or showrooms as DELEARSHIP????
The biggest difference in driving experience for us between the S and the 3 so far? The suspension!
I know there are folks who love them some coils but, for my wife and I, the active air suspension in the S provides that right balance between road feel and a supple ride. The 3's steel springs (?) makes for a bit more of a rough ride where we feel those pesky recessed manhole covers and such; so much so, I try to do some zig-zagging to avoid those as much as I can.
We also feel that longer-distance travel could be more fatiguing in the 3 than in the S, atleast for us. Of course, we intend to drive the S anyway, given free supercharging, for such drives.
There appears to be one advantage to the 3's suspension though that may also be attributable to its smaller size - cornering and handling through corners seem to be better than the slightly-boaty feel with the S (don't know how the S's + suspension fares here for those who have it).
Sure, there are probably longer term trade offs - that have been discussed ad infinitum on here before - between mechanical and air suspensions but, these are our observations so far.
Just in case anyone's keeping tabs on my poor math, I meant 6 years (2012 was when the "city" version of this car debuted). I'm still on the original 12V battery, so I'm getting nervous here.Accustomed to a Prius C for the last 8 years, I suspect I won't even notice this roughness and will probably lose my collective fluids over the increased performance.
I've noticed that some tires take a while to wear in. They will actually cause the car to walk back and forth on things like rain groves in the pavement until worn a bit.Thanks for all the replies everyone. It sounds like this is intended behavior.
I should have mentioned that I have the 18" wheels and have turned off the lane departure warning and still feel vibration in the steering wheel at highway speeds.
Also, to be clear, the car is fine on the rare perfectly flat road, it is any minor crack/bump that gets felt strongly.