Propofoln
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I'd really like the front bumper camera more than the lights (both would be nice). But I don't think we will get it soon.
why do you say that?
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I'd really like the front bumper camera more than the lights (both would be nice). But I don't think we will get it soon.
Just a guess. I don't have more information than anyone else. My car is likely getting built very soon so will miss it even if it happens in late December or January.why do you say that?
Just a guess. I don't have more information than anyone else. My car is likely getting built very soon so will miss it even if it happens in late December or January.
I can see the difference.So part of the delivery repairs included small scratches on the trunk. I was told they would be buffed out. The SC decided to wet sand the trunk and remove the badge. When I went to pick it up (one of the pick up attempts) they even forgot to put it back on. Yesterday on my third or fourth pickup attempt (I'm losing track), they had it put back on but it's about a quarter inch too low.
Mine is the white car, the gray one is for reference. Probably not the best pic as the gray one looks crooked lol. Mine looks far better in retrospect.
Bummer. I think you can reject one car without them canceling your order. Maybe get another shot at getting a '24? You could say you'll be out of the country for the next few weeks and can't accept delivery of this car. Please reassign to someone else.I got my VIN assigned today and its a 2023. Placed the order on 10/22.
I'm trying to figure out the factory gate date. The method posted on this thread works on inventory but doesn't work on my custom order. Any here able to figure that out yet?
Also it asks me to review and accept terms which basically say car isn't equipped with USS and relies solely on cameras. Some features like summon etc. including FSD might not work.
How long can I hold off to accept these terms? I want to delay the delivery until mid December if possible.
My EDD updated tonight. It was showing 11/17-12/22 for the last few weeks. Now it shows 11/24-12/15. No VIN yet.Hi, All! I ordered an Ultra Red Model S Long Range on Thursday (October 19). Very excited!![]()
Elon's foolish pride. Doubling down on vision for everything.I'm really curious about what Tesla are going to do with this whole USS removal situation. I was watching one of Out of Spec's reviews comparing camera sensors between the HW3 and HW4 models, and what's interesting is on the top of the windshield where the 3 camera array is, the new Model Y was missing the middle camera.
Purely speculative, but I wonder if that's a blank to retrofit a LIDAR module or some other spectrum camera to augment Tesla vision. It really makes no sense to me why you would remove an array of sensors that are not impeded by visual interference (rain, mud, snow, sunlight etc.) and depend solely on something that requires line of sight.
I think the blank is just because they didn't feel like redesigning the trim when moving to a two camera design. The HW3 and earlier had a narrow angle, "standard", and wide angle array. HW4 just has a standard and wide angle. I guess they felt the resolution increase was sufficient to no longer require a dedicated narrow angle camera to resolve details.I'm really curious about what Tesla are going to do with this whole USS removal situation. I was watching one of Out of Spec's reviews comparing camera sensors between the HW3 and HW4 models, and what's interesting is on the top of the windshield where the 3 camera array is, the new Model Y was missing the middle camera.
Purely speculative, but I wonder if that's a blank to retrofit a LIDAR module or some other spectrum camera to augment Tesla vision. It really makes no sense to me why you would remove an array of sensors that are not impeded by visual interference (rain, mud, snow, sunlight etc.) and depend solely on something that requires line of sight.
They will once competition starts eating their lunch, so far they didn't need to, but I think those days will soon be over.I am hoping that tesla eventually uses the HD radar module to do some of what the USS sensors used to do. But I don't have any hopes for this company actually improving any of the automation features.
Sometimes you have to go backwards a bit to go forwards. Tesla are effectively changing the wheels on the bus as they're driving down the road (the DevOps model of motor vehicle manufacturing/development), so sometimes the changes seem counter-intuitive. They're also pretty reserved when it comes to providing information, whether that be because they're clueless or maybe because they are in the middle of some of those backwards steps. It's very annoying to all of us but at the same time, what other auto manufacturers are constantly evolving their current models on the street.I think the blank is just because they didn't feel like redesigning the trim when moving to a two camera design. The HW3 and earlier had a narrow angle, "standard", and wide angle array. HW4 just has a standard and wide angle. I guess they felt the resolution increase was sufficient to no longer require a dedicated narrow angle camera to resolve details.
In fairness, the quality difference is actually pretty tremendous
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I am hoping that tesla eventually uses the new highres radar module to do some of what the USS sensors used to do. But I don't have any hopes for this company actually improving any of the automation features.
I'm curious about that, too. I'm taking delivery in California on Sunday of my SLR, ordered 10/20.I got my VIN assigned today and its a 2023. Placed the order on 10/22.
I'm trying to figure out the factory gate date. The method posted on this thread works on inventory but doesn't work on my custom order. Any here able to figure that out yet?
Are you counting on free Supercharging transfer? If not and you really want a 2024, might just have to lose the $250 deposit and start over. But a 2024 that's identical to a 2023 is really of no benefit. I would wait until the camera comes out if that's what you really want.I got my VIN assigned today and its a 2023. Placed the order on 10/22.
I'm trying to figure out the factory gate date. The method posted on this thread works on inventory but doesn't work on my custom order. Any here able to figure that out yet?
Also it asks me to review and accept terms which basically say car isn't equipped with USS and relies solely on cameras. Some features like summon etc. including FSD might not work.
How long can I hold off to accept these terms? I want to delay the delivery until mid December if possible.
It used that once a VIN was assigned you could view source data on the image on your order page.I'm curious about that, too. I'm taking delivery in California on Sunday of my SLR, ordered 10/20.
What we’re talking about is the manufacturing date, not the model year. The model year is easy to tell from the VIN, so everyone still knows what they’re getting 23’s now.It used that once a VIN was assigned you could view source data on the image on your order page.
I'm guessing if it changed it's because everyone would be cancelling their order to get a 24 Car.
What we’re talking about is the manufacturing date, not the model year. The model year is easy to tell from the VIN, so everyone still knows what they’re getting 23’s now.
I’m thinking around Feb March. That’s when the other upgrades happened. Thinner bezel screen.I'd really like the front bumper camera more than the lights (both would be nice). But I don't think we will get it soon.
You might get the VIN in a week. At least that's what happened in my case.My EDD updated tonight. It was showing 11/17-12/22 for the last few weeks. Now it shows 11/24-12/15. No VIN yet.