MFrunkerOG
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Ditto!
Maybe next time with MPP then. I really like their Girodiscs and their attention to detail, but I guess I just didn’t want to wait a long time
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Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!
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Maybe next time with MPP then. I really like their Girodiscs and their attention to detail, but I guess I just didn’t want to wait a long time
Tesla 2021+ Model S Plaid Brake Guide For High-Performance Driving - Unplugged Performance very good read on brakes. They say you need ducts also.
Model S Plaid – Carbon Fiber Racing Brake Duct Kit (FRONT) (2021+) - Unplugged Performance
The carbon fiber brake duct kit has been developed over months of testing at Pikes Peak, allowing you to cool your Plaid S brakes more efficiently
unpluggedperformance.com
Anyone have any ideas or experience with this kit?
Unplugged has that experience, apparently on a Pikes Peak. I would most certainly install that.Model S Plaid – Carbon Fiber Racing Brake Duct Kit (FRONT) (2021+) - Unplugged Performance
The carbon fiber brake duct kit has been developed over months of testing at Pikes Peak, allowing you to cool your Plaid S brakes more efficiently
Anyone have any ideas or experience with this kit?
I would follow up advice and make sure that cables and piping is in reflective thermoprotective sleeves. Burning plastic away without dust shields is quite easy - hot rotors easily cook plastic with infrared radiation.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Not this kit, but I have experience with a few track cars and would highly recommend ducting the brakes to increase cooling.Anyone have any ideas or experience with this kit?
Model S Plaid – Carbon Fiber Racing Brake Duct Kit (FRONT) (2021+) - Unplugged Performance
The carbon fiber brake duct kit has been developed over months of testing at Pikes Peak, allowing you to cool your Plaid S brakes more efficiently
They have some prototype 3-d renderings of this kit on their instagram/Facebook feedModel S Plaid – Carbon Fiber Racing Brake Duct Kit (FRONT) (2021+) - Unplugged Performance
The carbon fiber brake duct kit has been developed over months of testing at Pikes Peak, allowing you to cool your Plaid S brakes more efficiently
Anyone have any ideas or experience with this kit?
They are now offering a track brake package for a mere $20K. I agree though, My 300C SRT8 had better brakes than my Plaid. Also, because I know it, I try to drive accordingly and not "over drive" the brakes.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
FYI - previously posted details from Electrek.
Tesla unveils $20,000 Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit for Model S Plaid
Tesla has unveiled the first new track-ready accessory kit for Model S Plaid: a $20,000 Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit. The...
electrek.co
So it's a 2 inch ducting with proper front intakes. Not huge, but much better than nothing and there is always space issue to route full size ducts. The main benefit though is from properly designed adapter that can deliver higher pressure air to the center of rotors. Universal solutions are usually much worse than those built with dedicated rotor hats.
This is a good example of tight fit duct adapter with 3 inch duct.
I really hope that Unplugged would consider making behind the wheel hub full enclosure for their own steel/carbon rotor hats with integrated heatshield. That would be a good track solution that also fits 18/19 tires.
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We've built and run ducts similar in design to these on other cars, and are thinking about it with MPP on the Plaid (including ducting fresh air from the nose. The challenge seems to be the there isn't a ton of room in there based on maximizing tire width, including replacing all the suspension arms to increase adjustability. Our application may be fine without them, but if we can figure out how to fit it in this is a significant upgrade for road course use for sure.
From a product perspective (for MPP or UP or anyone else) there's so many variations in calipers, rotors, suspension etc. that it's hard to make a product that will work successfully for enough people to make it worthwhile. Good news is that it's not that hard of a piece to make if someone wants to try themselves.
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
only if you track the car - even UP says this is a track only upgrade.Model S Plaid – Carbon Fiber Racing Brake Duct Kit (FRONT) (2021+) - Unplugged Performance
The carbon fiber brake duct kit has been developed over months of testing at Pikes Peak, allowing you to cool your Plaid S brakes more efficiently
Anyone have any ideas or experience with this kit?
i know we dont talk about efficiency here
, but this will increase your wh/mile - its like having two mini parachutes on the car unless you close the ducts for daily driving.
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are we sure about this "drag" comment? How much does the UP duct simply redirect airflow to the brakes vs. stock air flow? But in concert with your concerns, one could be concerned about these UP air ducts being detrimental to battery life in extreme ambient environments because presumably the stock airflow is focused on battery conditioning?only if you track the car - even UP says this is a track only upgrade.
i know we dont talk about efficiency here
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
yes, but the cutouts here are made to either side of the existing vents - there is space there. no impact to anything else...
i didnt want to talk about "drag" here because of some millennial here who woulda debated endlessly about the definition of drag.
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Yes, track requirements are different than hyper-miling needs. The package comes with covers for the hyper-milers who are also racers.yes, but the cutouts here are made to either side of the existing vents - there is space there. no impact to anything else...
i didnt want to talk about "drag" here because of some millennial here who woulda debated endlessly about the definition of drag.
only if you track the car - even UP says this is a track only upgrade.
i know we dont talk about efficiency here
They do not state that on their website for the product.
Website also states there are covers to eliminate range effects for long distance driving.
I would use these on the street all of the time, and put the covers on for drives on the highway.
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
I call BS on the drag comment. YMMVonly if you track the car - even UP says this is a track only upgrade.
i know we dont talk about efficiency here
Negligible impact redirecting the airflow.
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
thats why i said we dont talk efficiency hereI call BS on the drag comment. YMMV
Negligible impact redirecting the airflow.
Drag would be minimal, but getting excessive amount of small stones stucking in rotor vents is not ideal, so if I was UP, I would add an option to put a filter cap, rather than blocking cap. Filter would impact cooling, but not too much (at the end of the day, front radiators are completely exposed to all flying debris).
Filter is also not bad at stopping massive splashes of water coming in from the rain all of the sudden.
Btw, ducts also a legitimate way to power mist some water in the ducts to significantly improve cooling. For those who afraid that doing this in the rotor itself is somehow dangerous.
Filter is also not bad at stopping massive splashes of water coming in from the rain all of the sudden.
Btw, ducts also a legitimate way to power mist some water in the ducts to significantly improve cooling. For those who afraid that doing this in the rotor itself is somehow dangerous.
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