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27.4 cm longer (10.8ʺ) just 1.2ʺ shy of an imperial foot, plus 11.5 cm (4.5ʺ) wider is 75% of 6ʺThe S is oohh.. a whole foot longer and almost 6 inches wider than the 3
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27.4 cm longer (10.8ʺ) just 1.2ʺ shy of an imperial foot, plus 11.5 cm (4.5ʺ) wider is 75% of 6ʺThe S is oohh.. a whole foot longer and almost 6 inches wider than the 3
It’s more than that. Alcantara headlining, leather lined doors and steering wheel, more sound deadening. The MS and the M3 has as much in common as a A class and S class Merc, there’s a family DNA but in lots of areas there’s a gulf in them, and depending which you prefer, both have plus points
+1 for the Raven. The adaptive suspension is a game changer and with a few tweaks makes the car tossable, flat and controlled around corners but smooth and quiet on the motorway. Hardly makes the S a driver's car, but then neither is a 3.Huge difference between 2018 vs 2019. Raven started in early 2019. Better ride and big jump in range with Raven.
I always find it ironic people concerned about ride quality and yet they purchase the worst configurations. M3P (with 20”) will ride harsher than M3 LR. Also 20” is more road noise.
Also people generally don’t get sick from a harsh ride. They get sick from poor EV driving habits. You can make any passenger ill in any Tesla with any config.
You could balance a wine glass on your head when I drive.
I got rid of my M3 (stealth P) for a harsh ride (nobody ever got sick, including my sensitive dogs). It wasn’t terrible but I wanted better. I went to a Model X (20” summer, 19” winter). It is much more floaty but still handles better than any other SUV. Quietness was acceptable. Now moved Model S Refresh (19” inch) is slightly firmer. Handles better. A smidge more quiet than the X. Good compromise (handling, noise, range, efficiency, harshness).
A mafs genious, yay. That makes it even less biggerer than the modl free but evryone sez S is way too biggerer.27.4 cm longer (10.8ʺ) just 1.2ʺ shy of an imperial foot, plus 11.5 cm (4.5ʺ) wider is 75% of 6ʺ
I’ve certainly noticed that when I arrive at a Supercharger with a Model S already at another stall… I charge my 3 and invariably when I’m leaving I see that the S is still charging.What I would say about the shift to the Model 3 (and now Model Y) is how much faster everything about rapid charging is. The Model S (and admittedly mine were 90’s) took realistically twice as long to add a similar range to the Model 3/Y, both because charge rates are lower, especially on V3 chargers, and you get more miles per kWh added. If that’s not a concern then great but might be a shock if going from a 3 to a S.
Could be on free supercharging and getting every penny...I’ve certainly noticed that when I arrive at a Supercharger with a Model S already at another stall… I charge my 3 and invariably when I’m leaving I see that the S is still charging.
I’ve certainly noticed that when I arrive at a Supercharger with a Model S already at another stall… I charge my 3 and invariably when I’m leaving I se
and the larger battery and range on the MS.Could be on free supercharging and getting every penny...
3 is a nimble small car. Best for crowded cities and small parking spots.
You're obviously not referring to either the Palladium refresh S or X...I’ve certainly noticed that when I arrive at a Supercharger with a Model S already at another stall… I charge my 3 and invariably when I’m leaving I see that the S is still charging.
You're obviously not referring to either the Palladium refresh S or X...
Well when you do, Plaid pins at 250kwh above 10% after pre-conditioning before the curve sets in, fwiw. Since it does this so quickly and easily, I can see it going higher once they either increase the kWh on v3's and when v4 superchargers come out. Using CCS adapter on an EA, it hits about 200kwh on the 350kwh EA chargers and the curve seems less steep than superchargers.Obviously not, as you can't get them in the UK yet.
Feels more like an ’if’ rather than a ‘when‘Well when you do,
Typical Symons though, the Model 3 charges much faster so when you do need to charge, you'll spend a lot less time there.and the larger battery and range on the MS.
This YT video covers the main points - same efficiency on the road, but larger range means less time spent with the riff-raff at unlocked superchargers…..
This might be useful. it talks of the 7 phases of the Model SThere seems like that there are so many different versions of the MS...is there an easy to follow chart of the differences anywhere?
because m3 is 19 reg in this video - still with single glass windows. new M3s have much better noise insulation (laminated windows, etc.)Listening to the video, you can easily hear that the 3 is much louder inside. S is more hushed.
Unfortunately no note of the Raven adaptive suspension here - which is the game changer for me. Keeps the car level and planted on bumpy UK roads that throw the less tuned Model 3/Y off the line.Typical Symons though, the Model 3 charges much faster so when you do need to charge, you'll spend a lot less time there.
This might be useful. it talks of the 7 phases of the Model S
Tesla Model S Ultimate Buyers Guide
Tesla Model S Buyers Guide covering everything you need to know.tesla-info.com