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Model Y Aims to Be Tesla's Real Mass Market Hit

Discussion in 'Model Y' started by Ty_McMahan, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Brando

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    #21 Brando, Jun 5, 2019
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    Not exactly "wholly irrelevant" as it it their "home base".
    side note: Tesla is only allowed in about 1/3 of the US States to have stores & service centers.
    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/fz2sepusUtR22oXuQ_6vpw--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MTI4MDtoPTk2MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/c1b07adc974c29627692178817fb3c53

    Places to look for sales numbers:

    EV sales Scorecard (updated often)
    Update 4: Monthly Plug-In EV Sales Scorecard: May 2019
    look for articles about sales numbers
    Cleantech News — #1 In EV, Solar, Wind, Tesla News | CleanTechnica
    Data Base you can search
    GCBC

    PS- Tesla is not a century old OEM - they are not available everywhere - continue to expand
    recent summary of Tesla sales. Starts in CA but covers other areas - read to the end.
    13 Amazing Tesla Sales Milestones (+ 17 Charts) | CleanTechnica
     
  2. Alset4S

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    So, umm what does that prove other than there are some not so smart poeple in California that buy Civics:p
     
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  3. tech4cars

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    Have my order in for a Model Y LR.
     
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  4. nuclearfusion

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    Agree. I too think it is luxurious but recognise that I am a futurist and minimalist. Some like lots of buttons and fussy touches.
     
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    Unless I missed it, the author of this blog neglected to credit Ride The Lightning podcast for all the Elon Musk quotes.
     
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    I have my doubts. The fastback Model Y looks too much like the Honda Crosstour - both SUV and car buyers ignored the "Tweener" vehicle.

    We love our Model 3, but we weren't looking for a SUV. If I want an SUV, I'm looking for the somewhat vertical rear glass.

    I'm sure the Model Y will sell OK, and we might buy one, but I don't think it'll sell more than the CR-V or Rav4. Happy to be proven wrong.
     
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    I'm a proud owner of a MS BUT I must admit either MS or M3 is not really a luxury car, at least not by their interior but by their price yes.
     
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    Pricewise it's true BUT a MB C Class or any Lexus is way more luxurious inside. I'm still amazed to see on the road some MS at well over 100K with cloth interior...
     
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  9. scott1002

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    It does seem to fit the pattern put on Elon where the next product will be the one that makes the company work. No no no, not Q2, Q3. No no no, not 2019 but 2020
     
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  10. 3laine

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    Luxury cars aren't defined exclusively by their materials, fit, and finish anymore.

    If so, a base 3-series wouldn't be anywhere near a luxury car, either. There's nothing special about my friend's base F20 3-series with Sensatec interior compared to a Model 3. Sure, go with the top-level leather and trim options and such and it's a much nicer interior as far as materials and such, but $ for $ the Model 3 and BMW are similarly appointed.

    Further, my last 3 cars were BMWs (all 2015 or newer) and I still have one of them. I'd say overall the materials/fit/finish are better, but there are also ways the Model 3 is more luxurious. The tech is superior in the 3. The app is like iPhone X vs iPhone 3G as far as function/response/uptime. Autopilot, obviously. The ride and performance are also both far superior, and that's something that has long defined German luxury cars.

    It may not be a luxury car in the old sense of the word, but there are some pretty spartan "luxury cars," now, like base 3 series and CLAs, and the definition of "luxury car" is changing somewhat.
     
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  11. GregD60

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    #31 GregD60, Jun 5, 2019
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    If fit, finish, and build quality are your primary determinants of luxury, then the number one selling sedan in America, the Toyota Camry, is one of the most luxurious vehicles out there. If you're talking about interior appointments, features, and comfort, a Camry again is very luxurious. If there is something else you mean by "level of luxury", you'll have to explain what you mean. Honestly, there are so many features available in even the cheapest cars today that were once considered emblematic of luxury, that defining what is truly a "luxury" car is somewhat meaningless.

    Today, a "luxury" car is really just a market segment based on perception of the vehicle and brand's overall qualities. It is a fact that Teslas are regarded as luxury cars by the vast majority of the public and the auto industry.
     
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    What price? Options?
     
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    "The car is a compact SUV that will have a range of 300 miles, The Verge reported. Three versions will be available for sale in fall of 2020: a $47,000 long-range version, a $51,000 all-wheel drive dual-motor version and a $60,000 performance version. A cheaper standard version with a 230 mile range will sell for $39,000, but won't be available until 2021."
     
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    The S and X definitely. Model 3?
     
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    That scared me a little at first, too. Fortunately, that isn't what Elon said. Misquoted. Listening to the Podcast, he clearly says "coefficient of drag times area" -- I guess somebody "corrected" it for him
     
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    Oh no! My Lexus was not a luxury vehicle, and neither are my BMWs since I did not order the optional cold weather package with heated steering wheel. Just like most BMW, Mercedes, etc buyers here in California.
     
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  18. GregD60

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    Just as much as a BMW 3 series, Audi A4, or Mercedes C class.
     
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    Again, California isn’t the only place people buy vehicles.

    I would also submit no one in CA needs all wheel drive, but it’s an option.
     
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    The S is barely what I would consider a luxury vehicle. It’s on par with a 3-series and a 5-series blows it out of the water when it comes to fit and finish and amenities.
     

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