Porsche Mission E

[Eno Deb]

Actually that was from a poor referance source. The production manager said it’s lost the suicide doors. You say otherwise

No I don't. The suicide doors will not be in the final version, but your picture (and the others from the same photo shoot) doesn't show the final version either.

 

[Zer0t]

You know what I WAS also a Porsche fan. I had a Porsche Cayman S parked side by side with a Model S in my garage for two years. One is a version of a half century old design. The other is a modern vehicle that will be followed by everyone in the next half century. If Porsche wants to stay the easy and safe way and keep the 20th century "heritage" it's its choice. I want no part of it though.

If you think a car with the same old tired look, mediocre acceleration (and for heaven's sake that is a Porsche?) and without any of the modern technology is an upmarket car only because you can charge for more there is a logic I just can't comprehend.

Tired look? That’s pretty subjective and you are entitled to your tastes. Porsche’s weren’t built for acceleration they are built for grand touring and the track.

 

[omar193]

Thats like saying Porsche can’t build targa’s and convertibles without them being great handling. Being high up means little when you are sideways against a tree.
If you could post where the Saturn failed the safety compliance I’d love to see it.
Porsche also cares about the sales projections, period, and that means building for the masses.

The BMW i3 has those suicide style doors and does very well in side crash and crash testing in general.

 

[CarlK]

Tired look? That’s pretty subjective and you are entitled to your tastes. Porsche’s weren’t built for acceleration they are built for grand touring and the track.

The car is not tired and dated? I wanted a car like that when I was a kid. I don't want to still drive a car like that when I die. Life is too short for that. You do whatever you want.

 

[tga]

The car is not tired and dated? I wanted a car like that when I was a kid. I don't want to still drive a car like that when I die. Life is too short for that. You do whatever you want.

The 911's look hasn't changed much in over 55 years. That may count as "tired and dated" to you, but it doesn't seem to bother most Porsche buyers.

(Edit - yes, I know we're talking about the Panamera, not the 911, but the point still applies. Especially since the Panamera looks a lot like a 4-door 911. )

 

[Eno Deb]

The car is not tired and dated? I wanted a car like that when I was a kid. I don't want to still drive a car like that when I die. Life is too short for that. You do whatever you want.

Well, if you were a kid when the Panamera was introduced that explains a lot. That was in 2009, which, incidentally, is also the year when the prototype of the Model S was presented (almost exactly 10 years ago today).

 

[CarlK]

Well, if you were a kid when the Panamera was introduced that explains a lot. That was in 2009, which, incidentally, is also the year when the prototype of the Model S was presented (almost exactly 10 years ago today).

That's was 911 of course. What kind of kid you think I was that I would want a Panamera? Panamera is a hilarious looking sedan trying to keep the Porsche/911 look and at the same time to seat 4 adults relatively comfortably. Like the saying goes the camel is a horse designed by a committee. To be truthful Mission E is just a teaser. That car is impossibly to do in practice for obvious reasons. On the other hand there are many practical yet pretty sleek looking sports sedans from Merc, Audi, BMW, Maseratti and yes Tesla when they don't have to remind you of a 911. Porsche got its hands tied. Or so they think.

The 911's look hasn't changed much in over 55 years. That may count as "tired and dated" to you, but it doesn't seem to bother most Porsche buyers.

(Edit - yes, I know we're talking about the Panamera, not the 911, but the point still applies. Especially since the Panamera looks a lot like a 4-door 911. )

Hehe exactly.

 

[tga]

... Unfortunately the Taycan is following that.

Hehe exactly.

ARGH!!! Misquote alert!!!

 

[CarlK]

Fixed.

 

[tga]

Fixed.

You can unfix it. I'm just being goofy.

 

[Eno Deb]

That's was 911 of course. What kind of kid you think I was that I would want a Panamera?

Judging from your postings here I wouldn't rule out anything.

Panamera is a hilarious looking sedan trying to keep the Porsche/911 look and at the same time to seat 4 adults relatively comfortably.

Doesn't really make much sense to argue over personal taste. But your 911 comment makes zero sense. Panamera and 911 have very little in common. Porsche simply has its own design language like most other car makers, that's all.

To be truthful Mission E is just a teaser. That car is impossibly to do in practice for obvious reasons. On the other hand there are many practical yet pretty sleek looking sports sedans from Merc, Audi, BMW, Maseratti and yes Tesla when they don't have to remind you of a 911. Porsche got its hands tied.

The Taycan looks nothing like a 911. Besides, people who don't like the looks always have the choice to get the E-tron GT, which is based on the same platform. Choice is good.

 

[CarlK]

Judging from your postings here I wouldn't rule out anything.
Doesn't really make much sense to argue over personal taste. But your 911 comment makes zero sense. Panamera and 911 have very little in common. Porsche simply has its own design language like most other car makers, that's all.
The Taycan looks nothing like a 911. Besides, people who don't like the looks always have the choice to get the E-tron GT, which is based on the same platform. Choice is good.

Whatever design language that is Panamera is just not a good looking sedan. Sorry.

 

[FlatSix911]

The 911's look hasn't changed much in over 55 years. That may count as "tired and dated" to you, but it doesn't seem to bother most Porsche buyers. (Edit - yes, I know we're talking about the Panamera, not the 911, but the point still applies. Especially since the Panamera looks a lot like a 4-door 911. )

That's was 911 of course. What kind of kid you think I was that I would want a Panamera? Panamera is a hilarious looking sedan trying to keep the Porsche/911 look and at the same time to seat 4 adults relatively comfortably. Like the saying goes the camel is a horse designed by a committee. To be truthful Mission E is just a teaser. That car is impossibly to do in practice for obvious reasons. On the other hand there are many practical yet pretty sleek looking sports sedans from Merc, Audi, BMW, Maseratti and yes Tesla when they don't have to remind you of a 911. Porsche got its hands tied. Or so they think. Hehe exactly.

Judging from your postings here I wouldn't rule out anything. Doesn't really make much sense to argue over personal taste. But your 911 comment makes zero sense. Panamera and 911 have very little in common. Porsche simply has its own design language like most other car makers, that's all. The Taycan looks nothing like a 911. Besides, people who don't like the looks always have the choice to get the E-tron GT, which is based on the same platform. Choice is good.

Bottom line the Panamera is the ugly stepchild of the Porsche line... so sad that they tried to incorporate a few 911 design elements and ended up with a Franken-design. Let's hope that the Taycan turns out to be more 911 and less Panamera heritage...

Porsche CEO Finally Admits The Panamera Doesn't Look That Great

 

[Eno Deb]

Whatever design language that is Panamera is just not a good looking sedan. Sorry.

No apology is necessary. I neither designed it nor do I own one.

BTW, the Model X and Y are just not good looking SUVs, and the Model S looks a little tired. Sorry.

 

[Uncle Paul]

Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The Mission E styling is gorgeous and inspiring. The production model...not so much.

 

[Valore]

 

[Cirrus MS100D]

What happened to the cool slide away / hidden charge port door?!

 

[seattlite2004]

 

[CarlK]

Looks like all past videos edited together and it's published on April 1st.

 

[Spidy]

Bottom line the Panamera is the ugly stepchild of the Porsche line... so sad that they tried to incorporate a few 911 design elements and ended up with a Franken-design. Let's hope that the Taycan turns out to be more 911 and less Panamera heritage...

Porsche CEO Finally Admits The Panamera Doesn't Look That Great

2014...
Pretty much nobody claims that the first generation looked great...