Watts_Up
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Or at least providing adjustable damping coilovers would be great.Why can’t tesla release the y with air suspension and charge a premium for it - it is crying out for air
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Or at least providing adjustable damping coilovers would be great.Why can’t tesla release the y with air suspension and charge a premium for it - it is crying out for air
Because they want you to upgrade to the X if it's a priority.Why can’t tesla release the y with air suspension and charge a premium for it - it is crying out for air
Agreed. The much smoother ride is one of the many reasons I ordered a replacement X after test driving a Y. I also like the falcon-wing doors, additional sound dampening, large space, etc,Because they want you to upgrade to the X if it's a priority.
A 6-9 month order backlog says they don't need to.Why can’t tesla release the y with air suspension and charge a premium for it - it is crying out for air
It would make a lot of sense for adjustables to be in the Performance versions of 3/Y. The premium price paid warrants premium features, this would certainly be qualifying.Or at least providing adjustable damping coilovers would be great.
It would make a lot of sense for adjustables to be in the Performance versions of 3/Y. The premium price paid warrants premium features, this would certainly be qualifying.
A 6-9 month order backlog says they don't need to.
A supplier crisis would only get worse, with attendant logistics complications and order turbulence as orders get changed.
I don't think Telsa build more performance editions. It is they are less desirable and sell slower.Is this fair to say though? The part about the 6-9 month order backlog.
I can get a Model Y in 1 month, if I am willing to pay for performance package. If this school of thought is used w/ the Hummer EV; the Hummer EV has a 3year backlog (because the 80k Hummer EV is last priority, it is backordered until 2024-2025).
I am not sure I agree with Tesla’s choices here (or any of the companies doing this), but I can’t blame them - more revenue faster. If I had to guess what Tesla is doing; they dedicate majority of output (80%+) to performance models, and build long range as time permits.
I wish they would just do FIFO.
Shorter/stiffer springs, lower chassis ride height. dampers are the same M3 MYLR MYP, which leads to issues.Performance model will be the most 'stiff' due to small sidewall. Not sure if the suspension is different.
These are sport cars before luxury cars.
sidewall isn't the issue, just a contributor.Performance model will be the most 'stiff' due to small sidewall. Not sure if the suspension is different.
These are sport cars before luxury cars.
Those Tesla owners who purchased the Long Range Model Y (5 seat or 7 seat) did not purchase this Tesla vehicle expecting racing car specs. The Tesla Long Range Model Y is exactly that; a 5 and 7 passenger family cruiser.You can't have a racing car specs with soft suspension. Wanna get fun when driving? Then go to gym to keep body in good shape or meet health consequences. No tesla cars are family cruisers.
Perfectly acceptable to me and people I have had in the car. YMMV."Perfectly acceptable"? I'm not so sure. As jcanoe said, IF Tesla is trying to go more mainstream with the MY, creating a family cruiser for 5, or 7, they missed it by a wide margin because of the ride quality.
Driving solo, I don't notice the harshness at all, coming from VW/Audi with aftermarket street Bilstein struts. I quite enjoy the handling/comfort trade-off.
When I DO notice it is when any/all of my passengers grunt/groan/sigh when we encounter rough pavement...and this is with the MPP Coilovers on the softest settings.
driver expectations in the North American car market aren't the same as in the middle east.You can't have a racing car specs with soft suspension. Wanna get fun when driving? Then go to gym to keep body in good shape or meet health consequences. No tesla cars are family cruisers.
I think that's the exact problem, people's expectations... Tesla has never claimed the 3/Y to be a plush mobile yet a lot of people still expect this in the face of contradictory evidence. Even after review after review stating how stiff the 3/Y's some ppl people still think there's this possibility that its gonna be comfy like a Lexus. Talk about rude awakening...driver expectations in the North American car market aren't the same as in the middle east.
and trying to shame people into your way of thinking doesn't really work here.
If you were changing the suspension again, would you still go with MPP or would you choose Ohlin or UPP? Trying to decide what option I want to pursue and value your opinion."Perfectly acceptable"? I'm not so sure. As jcanoe said, IF Tesla is trying to go more mainstream with the MY, creating a family cruiser for 5, or 7, they missed it by a wide margin because of the ride quality.
Driving solo, I don't notice the harshness at all, coming from VW/Audi with aftermarket street Bilstein struts. I quite enjoy the handling/comfort trade-off.
When I DO notice it is when any/all of my passengers grunt/groan/sigh when we encounter rough pavement...and this is with the MPP Coilovers on the softest settings.