The yoke steering wheel is coming to the M3 and MY. One steering wheel across all models saves a lot of money.
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Rumour: Model 3/Y to lose stalks in 2023 model year
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It saves money and the Tesla fanboys will love it but 99% of the driving population will still want stalks.
Wol747
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Probably 50%. But no-one has ever come up with a reason why it’s actually better than a wheel, except those who think it’s going to make them feel like Tom Cruise.
Don’t forget the Maverick limited edition yoke steering wheel will also come with special buttons and afterburners mounted to the rear.
Enjoy your 4-points turn : « put in reverse » - « put in drive » - sh*t - « reverse » - « no, drive again »I don’t know why everyone’s so worried.
It can all be done by voice commands
pow216
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ACarneiro
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John D
This is change for the sake of change with very little (if anything) to be gained by it.
Comparing the two is not particularly useful.
John Dunlop’s invention was a leap forward in comfort, effectiveness and safety.
This is change for the sake of change with very little (if anything) to be gained by it.
Comparing the two is not particularly useful.
RedOctober
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Agree, stop making change just for the sake of change. Turn signal stalks and round steering wheel have worked fine for a century. I have watched numerous videos on these changes and it is not better no matter how someone tries to spin it.
You also need to accept that not every change is for the better.
Even the current indicator stalk doesn't work as predictably or well as that of other makes of car becauses they messed with it. This isn't when "I'm turning left, click left on the indicator", this is "I'm turning right at a roundabout. I indicate right, I start to drive around the roundabout and I now want to indicate left as I'm about to take the next exit" - it's hit and miss if it works, probably linked to whether its done 3 flashes of not at the time you want to change indicator direction, and the last thing any driver should be doing when driving is counting how many times the indicator has clicked.
Someone mentioned doing away with the instrument cluster - and even Tesla think its the better solution to have one which is why they provide one in their premium cars.
ACarneiro
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Yes, I agree.
What leap forward is it that you’re hoping to achieve int his case, though?
Or rather, what problem is it that needs solving?
Ultimately, I would prefer the stalkless layout to be optional. I would hate to be forced down that route.
I think its quite clear that Tesla often want to be different for the sake of it, not because it actually results in a better user experience. This is just another step towards them doing things different because they want to, not because anyone asked for it.
It's their free marketing budget
Make a wild change, lots of people talk about it. The whole 0-60 thing was predicated on free marketing. The MX doors. The light show. The Boombox.
What gets me is the story originates from a picture of the semi cabin and has nothing to do with M3 and MY somebodies speculation which has now become "the truth". There would be a real sense of irony if something somebody essentially made up and Tesla haven't said becomes true quicker than Musks prophecy of self driving cars which he's been telling for years (even if the relative complexity are massively different).
The problem that needs solving is simple. Profit.
Tesla decides that you no longer need "expensive" stalks, with complex wiring to allow stalks to function.
They delete stalks, and keep the car at the same price, with some crappy buttons and one ugly, easily worn-out yolk for all vehicle models .
They now offer you the old-fashioned, non-hipster way of signalling, using wipers, turning the car safely etc - but charge another £400 for the privilege.
Ker-ching!
They could just ask you to open your window and stick your arm out to signal your intentions. It has worked for those on bicycles for years. Another cost saving.
Because it felt like an overall good package at the time. There's a reason mine's on Carwow for sale right this minute. I've had enough of it.
I understand what you are saying. At least you will most likely make a profit on your sale. I think bad times are coming for Tesla as the competition ramps up their product line with customer service and quality that puts Tesla to shame.
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