Sorry but none of the proposed questions can be answered by requesting acknowledgement of lane decisions made by the AI. Some will choose to override, some will accept no matter what and some will randomly choose between the two. As the human intervention cannot be counted on as required, nor the reason for the intervention determined, it cannot be used to determine optimal outcome, which is required to determine whether or not the AI decision was optimal and therefore used to improve the AI. You need to have a clear measure of the quality of the outcome for machine learning to work properly.
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Sorry but none of the proposed questions can be answered by requesting acknowledgement of lane decisions made by the AI. Some will choose to override, some will accept no matter what and some will randomly choose between the two. As the human intervention cannot be counted on as required, nor the reason for the intervention determined, it cannot be used to determine optimal outcome, which is required to determine whether or not the AI decision was optimal and therefore used to improve the AI. You need to have a clear measure of the quality of the outcome for machine learning to work properly.
I think it will still suggest the lane change while someone is in your blind spot and it waits till they move before actually changing. DOn;t take my word for it though
ucmndd
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This is not true and hasn’t been in years.
I just let these urban myths keep going. Its better that way. The firmware update rain dance continues.
ucmndd
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people are getting updates for the v9 update, and here I am, still on 2018.34.1 
There is one thing that's true though - you can only get maps update over wifi, and some features cannot be deployed until you get the maps update. This has nothing to do with service centres though, just wifi anywhere.
I'm curious why you would look down to determine if a lane change should be made? Since it's clear you cannot see cars far enough behind you on the display to solely make the decision I always use the old fashioned "vision" method to determine whether it is safe or not. Now if you could see cars further behind you on the display I might consider rely solely on the display but until then not a chance I only look down. After all isn't the point right now to confirm this new EAP feature is working just as well or better then a regular driver? And a driver does this by looking out the window.
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The proposed lane change that has to be acknowledge with Nav on AP is only displayed on the binnacle screen so if you want to acknowledge it you have to look to see what you are acknowledging I guess. You still need to check if the lane is clear, but without looking down you won't know which way the car plans to move and therefore which lanes to check. If they are not using the acknowledgement data, which I argue above is not useful, they should have left the feature in shadow mode and just track your decisions against the machine decisions without offering the machine alternative I guess.
In any case, if you try to use the feature as it is delivered you will find yourself looking down a lot to see if it is suggesting a lane change, but you could just ignore it completely as you suggest I guess.
Ah, I was referring more to why are they asking for confirmation during lane changes. They are not using it for testing/verifying decisions of the lane change itself. Just the route portion or if the decision to go to a faster lane was correct. Can't really do that in shadow mode besides doesn't make a difference if its shadow mode or not might as well release it and let people also get the benefit out of it.
I have also been using it for a while and it suggests the lane change no matter what is on the lane.
Which is why I posted earlier that it seems the lane confirmations are more for route purposes and counting how many people are accepting it's suggestions vs ignoring/not doing anything, canceling.
No, only Energy Monitor, Phone, Calendar and Camera.
That's not machine learning. Theres no machine learning in the car. Come on people. Can we google before name dropping big words? Its embarrassing!
Where did he say anything about machine learning being done on car? The data you’re generating is being sent back to Tesla where machine learning is absolutely happening using the data you generated.
Why do you need to constantly look down? Just wait for the alert tone and then look down. You’re overthinking this I think
When you hear the tone how do you know if the car wants to go left or right?
In a cloud connected device the machine learning element wouldn't typically be in the end device. It would be in the cloud where it gathered data from the entire fleet devices.
As to what this training is depends on what kind of model. Typically its Deep Learning stuff for classification/detection which is under the ML umbrella.
If my data from my car isn't being used for ML of some kind then I'd really like to know why Tesla is doing with all my data that my car consistently sends to them.
U are the one not knowing what u are talking about. Tesla is the one saying they are collecting data from the fleet. If it is not for machine learning, why do they need to collect tens of millions of miles of driving data before removing lane confirmation?
I see no indication in that comment that he/she thinks learning is happening in the car. They specifically call out learning as happening from data aggregated across many users/cars, suggesting that wasn’t what they were saying.
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