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Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
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Ferrycraigs
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Just found and read the charges filed in the lawsuit, should be interesting to see what happens. I support Tesla, however have seen to much shady stuff over the past 6-7 years from them. The fact that they can restrict cars at any point for any reason is unacceptable.
If you going to take the wife and two little kids on a road trip, I might suggest test trip to a nearby SC and back to see what your charging speeds are like. For many of us, the slowdown has pushed the boundaries of reasonable/practical.
Be glad you got it replaced when you did. Now they seem to avoid honoring the warranty anyway they can think of.
lightningltd
Member
No one can get a straight answer from Tesla as to WHY. They act like its all made up.
Tesla told us WHY the day they released 2019.16
Tesla to update battery software following car fires
IThe why is: fires were happenning every week or two in parked cars - some parked for days without being used. Tesla identified a dangerous flaw and released 2019.19 to address it.
Unfortunately, that was an admission of guilt because they never reported the fires, their findings, or their response to the NHTSA.
Tesla can't say more now - that would only deepen the trouble they are in. They're staying quiet until the NHTSA delivers a verdict.
Tesla to update battery software following car fires
IThe why is: fires were happenning every week or two in parked cars - some parked for days without being used. Tesla identified a dangerous flaw and released 2019.19 to address it.
Unfortunately, that was an admission of guilt because they never reported the fires, their findings, or their response to the NHTSA.
Tesla can't say more now - that would only deepen the trouble they are in. They're staying quiet until the NHTSA delivers a verdict.
DING, 200k mark. can't wait for my OBD2 adapter and diagnostic cable adapter to come in so I can see how messed up my battery pack is with my crappy range.
yea no kidding. did a syracuse->orlando trip in august. ~1240 miles took 29 hours each way. went straight no stops other than supercharging. the reverse trip was exactly the same, 29 hours. In an ICE vehicle, that would have taken approximately 18-19 hours. It takes about 50% longer to take the Tesla because of the limited range and extremely slow supercharging rates. And if you're wondering, I only charged enough to make it to the next supercharger which I planned out to be about 120-150 miles spaced apart and I would give myself a +50 mile buffer (so charge to 170 if I need to go 120 miles) and arrived at each supercharger with about <20 miles range in order to "maximize" charge rate while "minimizing" the charge time (aka avoid charging above 80%). cruise control was mostly around 70mph, no a/c or heat on. still took FOREVER. also had to draft 18 wheelers to make it to most superchargers (it's never got the rated range before, always only getting about 60-70% of real world miles vs the displayed rated range).
my family hated me for the dreadfully slow road trip.
jaitch
Member
Someone/everyone needs to start a fake news story that Tesla are going to replace all early tech batteries with new 90 packs. Get it global and see what happens.
So after requesting another look at my battery, I received the following canned response:
“Good news! The diagnostic team has reviewed your concerns and determined that a service visit will not be necessary. Using remote data from your Model S determined -“
Afterwards i received the following email from Tesla:
“As requested, your Model S service appointment at the Richmond-Glen Allen service center has been cancelled”
I responded to Tesla’s email, or I tried to but the two email addresses did not allow for a response:
“For the record,
I did not request the cancellation. Tesla did in your text dated December 12, 2019. This a misleading statement and infers that I agreed to the cancellation, which I do not.”
I am so infuriated with them that I might sell mine and go back to an ICE, until a competitor comes to the market.
“Good news! The diagnostic team has reviewed your concerns and determined that a service visit will not be necessary. Using remote data from your Model S determined -“
Afterwards i received the following email from Tesla:
“As requested, your Model S service appointment at the Richmond-Glen Allen service center has been cancelled”
I responded to Tesla’s email, or I tried to but the two email addresses did not allow for a response:
“For the record,
I did not request the cancellation. Tesla did in your text dated December 12, 2019. This a misleading statement and infers that I agreed to the cancellation, which I do not.”
I am so infuriated with them that I might sell mine and go back to an ICE, until a competitor comes to the market.
They don't care if you do. They already have your money. What used to be the "customer first" is now "customer who?".
They want to make everyone get rid of their tesla. If they didn't they would try to be polite instead of hostile. They only want sycophant owners willing to shout down teslas victims. Tribal owners only.
Two threads currently on the main page. Interesting how the fanbois keep dismissing the range losses as normal "degradation" and the slow charging rate as no big deal ...
Why I recommend AGAINST buying a Tesla
Arbitration: 90d rapid battery degradation
When they finally buy a Tesla they will learn 2 things: Teslas are better cars than they imagined, and Tesla is a worse company than they imagined.
If we are successful in forcing Tesla to have some accountability, hopefully their future ownership experiences will be only positive. The cars just keep getting better and the people they are trying to shout down are trying to stop us from making the company get better too - they want the company to get worse because they just don't know how to respond when a corporation does something wrong and the only thing they understand is blind tribal allegiance right now.
My hope is they learn how to deal with their cognitive dissonance before Tesla forces a harsh reality check malware on them.
If we are successful in forcing Tesla to have some accountability, hopefully their future ownership experiences will be only positive. The cars just keep getting better and the people they are trying to shout down are trying to stop us from making the company get better too - they want the company to get worse because they just don't know how to respond when a corporation does something wrong and the only thing they understand is blind tribal allegiance right now.
My hope is they learn how to deal with their cognitive dissonance before Tesla forces a harsh reality check malware on them.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
That is less than I spent in fuel for a V6 ICE @ 25000 miles/year.
jkennebeck
Member
It's actually mileage in kilometerage
yes except in these two threads started with cars that according to this thread (page 1) would not be affected...
There is a political quip in the US: "a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged" and, and without getting sidetracked by the truthiness of the sentiment, I think you'll see a similar flip in the community as owners realize what is being done with their cars. There is human nature also at play here--no one wants to feel like they made a dumb decision, so its easier to deflect.
Just got update to 2019.49.2.3.
Release notes say it has High Voltage Battery Diagnostics Improvements. Something about being able to better detect performance degradation.
Release notes say it has High Voltage Battery Diagnostics Improvements. Something about being able to better detect performance degradation.
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