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Supercharger - Issaquah, WA (LIVE Oct 2018, 8 Urban stalls)
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Kermee
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Thanks for the report but what's a "coug" model S? One with a WSU sticker?
It's when a Tesla is about to complete an auto-lane change, but freaks out for no reason and goes back to its original lane at the last second. /s
goneskiian
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Good. Glad I'm not the only one that happens to!It's when a Tesla is about to complete an auto-lane change, but freaks out for no reason and goes back to its original lane at the last second. /s
Ha ha yes WSU custom plates......or a model S that preys on M3.
Dropped by on Friday night after I picked up my car from the detailer. 3 spots available when I got there. Grabbed a smoothie and sat in my car while it charged.
One group of older gentlemen kept looking around for cars that were done charging, and even attempted to pull a charger out (I'm assuming they didn't know the charger locks) because that particular car was done charging. Fortunately, 30 seconds later the guy whose vehicle was plugged in arrived and unplugged. I left shortly thereafter as well. It was wild.
One group of older gentlemen kept looking around for cars that were done charging, and even attempted to pull a charger out (I'm assuming they didn't know the charger locks) because that particular car was done charging. Fortunately, 30 seconds later the guy whose vehicle was plugged in arrived and unplugged. I left shortly thereafter as well. It was wild.
Ok, so Tesla is making this choice. That's strange. That doesn't match what's being done at other charging locations in the area. And it doesn't make sense for Tesla either, considering the amount of money they had to invest to install these stations.
They were trying to unplug because I assume they wanted to charge and that car was done. I'm not sure how they could tell it was done, but they seemed convinced it was.
They car they were attempting to unplug was on the end spot furthest from the transformer. So they had just pulled up next to the car and could've easily plugged in if the car was done. They were in a Model X.
Hopefully Tesla implements some sort of solution to queueing at the chargers, it would help avoid weirdness like this.
Were all 8 stalls occupied? All you said in your post was that there were 3 stalls available when you go there. If there were stalls available, I can't imagine why they'd try to unplug another car. In any case, that doesn't work with Teslas as has been previously pointed out.
Recall that Washington is one of the few states with laws respecting EV charging parking enforcement. Tesla is a worldwide provider of charging facilities, with siting policies that cover the entire country, if not the planet. They are likely to make the same kinds of offers to property owners in Washington to get them to allow Supercharger installations as they do to property owners in Florida. If the property owner is offered the opportunity to keep parking slots or have them strictly dedicated to charging possibly empty, they want the flexibility to have a customer parked there, especially during holiday shopping times.
I'm just genuinely curious how you came to think this. The comment from @BerTX that you were replying to said:
"Usually the property owner wants to keep parking options open for all customers."
You think that Tesla owns the property of those parking spots in the middle of that Fred Meyer parking lot?
Tesla's choice - because they choose not to include it when they negotiate SC placement.
That's not true. In many (most?) cases, that's not even negotiable. There is a guy on the other Tesla forum at Tesla's site who has a lot of real experience with this, since he is a partial owner of several shopping centers, and several of them DO have Tesla Superchargers at them, so he has worked with this directly. The issue is laws and ordinances that govern parking ratios. There are some requirements for the amount of parking spaces that must be there per square footage of the retail space. Most of the time, these places are built with about the minimum parking required, because they want to maximize the revenue-generating store space. Any spaces that are set aside for something like "Tesla charging only" must be subtracted from the amount of parking spaces that are left to comply with the parking ratio laws. And most of the time, they don't have enough spare to just remove 8 or 10 spaces from the amount they must have for customers. So from that guy's actual knowledge and experience, he said that is exactly why the best you see at most places is maybe half of the spaces marked for Tesla charging only, and the rest marked for also 30 minutes general parking, because then those don't have to be subtracted from the customer space number.
Sorry, I should have clarified, yes, when I got there, 3 were open, but quickly after that all 8 became occupied. These folks (car #9), then attempted to see if they could get the plug from the car done charging at the end of the row opposite the transformer, where they were parked facing the other direction so it could easily plug in to their car.
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