Superchargers in Northern California (location speculation)

[Owner]

My guess for "South San Jose" would be at "The Plant" which is in South San Jose .

that would be so appropriate.

"the Plant" is a reference to the way back in time IBM Plant in South San Jose. This was pre Silicon Valley days.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't think anything was ever manufactured there... Mostly R&D... There were a lot of buildings. But that was back in the day when companies gave people offices, not cubicle, not desks, and not 1/2 desks! A friend of mine just got a job and has to share a desk, that's way too crowded for me.

 

[cpa]

"the Plant" is a reference to the way back in time IBM Plant in South San Jose. This was pre Silicon Valley days.

Yeah, them were the days. Them were the days when apricot, nectarine, cherry, and plum orchards were ubiquitous. Truck farms were on small parcels selling really great produce.

The enticing aroma of the Del Monte cannery on Auzerais would waft on the zephyr off the Bay. Sometimes fruit cocktail, sometimes pickles. It did not matter. Summers in San Jose!

My uncle used to work for Piazza Paving that was on Downer Rd. That company in concert with developers helped pave over all those orchards in the '60s.

 

[SMAlset]

According to Google Maps South San Jose is a huge area and actually has three Targets. One is the Target at The Plant. Another is the Target on Cottle Rd. The third is the Target at Oakridge Mall. I could make an argument for all three with Oakridge Mall being the least likely because of the proximity to the new Cherry Ave (Almaden) Supercharger.

I kind of like the idea of Target Cottle Rd because of the proximity to 101 and 85. There is also all the new high density housing that is going up in that area, which screams to me no opportunities for residents to home charge.

It will be interesting to see where the next Superchargers will be built in San Jose. The city could easily accommodate six different Superchargers that would stay busy.

A Cottle Road location would be interesting. And like your reasoning about near 101 and 85 for easy access from either major highway. It's not that far away from Almaden Shopping Center and the Cherry Avenue Superchargers though. It would help split some of the road from the Cherry Avenue location I guess, which I do think will be very busy.

We dine there occasionally and there are a number of food establishments there too. Of course a Starbucks. Safeway at one end and Target at the other. As you mentioned there is a ton of new dense housing going up there as upper scale apartments. Lowes down the street from there too. When we are up there in the future will definitely keep an eye out in the parking lot area around there. The parking lot area around Lowes is massive but at least now no real food or bathroom options immediately near by.

I was thinking about Target by Oakridge and really doubt that one. As it is during the holidays there is no where to park as it is at times and you just circle looking for regular parking.

 

[SMAlset]

Was looking at the Tesla Supercharger map again. While the location by Cottle (85 and 101) would be nice (for us) I noticed the Plant one is kind of close to Almaden Plaza/Cherry and Rt 87 too. So my thought is now thinking more east of these and closer to 101. There really is no Supercharger location off 101 north of Gilroy until you get to Mountain View, quite a distance up the peninsula. So my best guess now would be something that is accessible from 101 (heavily traveled north and south) and still near Monterey Road (also heavily traveled alternate back route). Tesla describes the future location as in South San Jose so I'm thinking more like 101/85/Monterey Road area maybe around Bernal. There a shopping center on Bernal near 101 and Monterey with a Starbuck and other shopping and some food and grocery.

However, the only other location in that area and maybe better suited that I think could offer easy on and off access north and south on 101, be close to 85 and Monterey Road, would be the new development area off 101 at Blossom Hill/Silver Creek Valley Road. There's a new Starbucks open right off 101 on the east side (101 and Silver Creek--5805 Silver Creek Valley Place). High tech office park right down the road, lots of housing on the Blossom Hill side of 101 and the whole Silver Creek Country club housing up the hill to the east on Silver Creek Valley Road. With Starbucks there already there would be utilities to the area and still plenty of land to develop a Supercharger location on. In fact being on the east side of 101 if they went with solar panels there they would get plenty of sun from the west to charge. I'm sure other shops and eateries will go in there shortly. Really great visibility from 101 north or south. It's location is right at 101 where a Cottle or Bernal location would be a bit off the highway. I think Tesla has shown that it likes to be fairly close to major highways so people don't have far to exit off. The area falls in the South San Jose area of Google's map when you search for South San Jose so definitely could be a contender. Cottle Road has on and off exit ramps for 85. Here's the location on the map. What do you think?

 

[Darksoldier360]

Cottle road target is an easy trip off 101 on blossom hill exit. Also, the power grid in that area is particularly robust due to some of the industrial activities in the area. Guess we’ll see...

 

[DOCAL]

Cottle road target is an easy trip off 101 on blossom hill exit. Also, the power grid in that area is particularly robust due to some of the industrial activities in the area. Guess we’ll see...

I've been checking for permits on that Target location for a while, although from my experience there the parking can be pretty bad.

Another nearby location I thought was possible is the Lucky's that's on Bernal Rd. Access from 85 and 101 is good, there's normally lots of parking, and they already have some Chademo/CCS chargers there. Food and starbucks nearby.

 

[SMAlset]

Found that last South San Jose location and it's on Cottle Road at Target: SUPERCHARGER - S. San Jose - 5630 Cottle Rd (Permit 12/6/18 - 14 Superchargers) This is very near the Starbucks marked on the left side of 101 in the map a few posts above in this thread.

 

[emupilot]

I have a good news / bad news update / non-update on the theoretical Marin City / Sausalito supercharger. Marin County changed the format of their permit database so that it doesn't truncate the description of the permit so what was "E V Charging Statio" is now "E V Charging Stations, Cabinets, Etc. Tesla". The bad news is that the permit application was received on 3/1/2018 and it hasn't been issued. The county wouldn't take this long to issue a permit, so the delay (or cancellation) is probably from Tesla. Perhaps the Corte Madera site is replacing this one as far as Tesla is concerned.

 

[mociaf9]

I have a good news / bad news update / non-update on the theoretical Marin City / Sausalito supercharger. Marin County changed the format of their permit database so that it doesn't truncate the description of the permit so what was "E V Charging Statio" is now "E V Charging Stations, Cabinets, Etc. Tesla". The bad news is that the permit application was received on 3/1/2018 and it hasn't been issued. The county wouldn't take this long to issue a permit, so the delay (or cancellation) is probably from Tesla. Perhaps the Corte Madera site is replacing this one as far as Tesla is concerned.

It's still live and in planning review. Most recent activity was in November 2018. It's to install 12 urban-style supercharger stations (with potential future expansion of 4 additional stations) at the Marin Gateway Shopping Center (190 Donahue St.). It looks like the long hold up might be that the project was to install 18 EVCS, but they may have had to reduce the number and resubmit due to the center already being under the generally required number of parking stations.
Marin Gateway Garp LLC Master Plan Amendment (P2155) - County of Marin

 

[PLUS EV]

It's still live and in planning review. Most recent activity was in November 2018. It's to install 12 urban-style supercharger stations (with potential future expansion of 4 additional stations) at the Marin Gateway Shopping Center (190 Donahue St.). It looks like the long hold up might be that the project was to install 18 EVCS, but they may have had to reduce the number and resubmit due to the center already being under the generally required number of parking stations.
Marin Gateway Garp LLC Master Plan Amendment (P2155) - County of Marin

There's a Target there, so that's likely the host business.

 

[mociaf9]

There's a Target there, so that's likely the host business.

The proposed site is actually facing towards the CVS this time: Here, in this row

 

[Zorg]

Probably old news, but Tesla shows a third supercharger planned for Truckee.

 

[israndy]

I think the Tesla.com/findus page has been updated. Everything just says Opening in 2019, but there may be some new points. Was there always a future San Rafael Supercharger? Vallejo? Walnut Creek? Hayward? Half Moon Bay? Woodside?

Also just noticed, but may have not cared before, was there always a future charger in South San Francisco? San Mateo? Los Altos? Mt. View II? Santa Clara? San Jose III? Santa Cruz? Watsonville?

There are LOTS of future Superchargers on the map. I still haven't visited all the Bay Area ones as it stands. It may be like movies soon, they make them faster than you can see them. You can never visit them all.


On a sad note, I no longer see any Superchargers to connect California to Mexico, but that's not a NorCal problem

-Randy

 

[mociaf9]

I think the Tesla.com/findus page has been updated. Everything just says Opening in 2019, but there may be some new points. Was there always a future San Rafael Supercharger? Vallejo? Walnut Creek? Hayward? Half Moon Bay? Woodside?

Also just noticed, but may have not cared before, was there always a future charger in South San Francisco? San Mateo? Los Altos? Mt. View II? Santa Clara? San Jose III? Santa Cruz? Watsonville?

Here's a post from October 5th that shows what sites had been on the map with 2018 target dates (if a site you're curious about was already listed as 2019, then it wouldn't be on this list even if it was already on Tesla's map unless we already knew the exact location from permit filings). It classes them by the amount of information we already have about the site as well as whether Tesla gave more information than just "2018" or not:

Here is an update on the status of the North American "Coming Soon" superchargers targeted to open in 2018. 6 sites opened in the U.S. and Canada in the last month. Now that we are in the 4th quarter of the year, the pace of new permitting and construction is starting to accelerate. Below is a list of the sites that came online and the 97 sites for which we have information or at least rumors on their location. Sites with confirmed locations are shown at supercharge.info; details on all sites is available at the Supercharger Progress wiki.

Location	Site Known?	Status
Payson, AZ	yes	permit approved
Alameda, CA	yes	under construction
Antioch, CA	yes	in permitting
Calabasas, CA	yes	under construction hiatus
Carlsbad - La Costa, CA	yes	operational
Carmel Mountain, CA	yes	under construction
Chico, CA	yes	in permitting
Daly City, CA	yes	operational
Emeryville, CA	yes	in permitting
Fontana, CA	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Huntington Beach, CA	yes	in permitting
Laytonville, CA	yes	in permitting
Livermore, CA	yes	under construction
Lone Pine, CA	yes	expansion in planning
Los Gatos, CA	yes	operational
Marin City, CA	maybe	in permitting
Milpitas, CA	yes	awaiting power on / testing
Oxnard, CA	yes	expansion under construction
San Diego - Mission Valley, CA	yes	in permitting
San Dimas, CA	maybe	in design/permitting?
San Jose - Cherry Avenue, CA	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Santa Monica, CA	yes	in permitting
Santa Monica - Santa Monica Place, CA	yes	in permitting
Wheat Ridge, CO	maybe	in site selection
Meriden, CT	maybe	in site selection
Old Lyme, CT	yes	in permitting
Dover, DE	yes	in permitting
Gainesville, FL	yes	in permitting
Miami - Wynwood, FL	maybe	in site selection
Pembroke Pines, FL	yes	under construction
Plantation, FL	yes	expansion under construction
Augusta II, GA	yes	in permitting
Buford, GA	yes	under construction
Shelby, IA	yes	in permitting
Sioux City, IA	maybe	in design / permitting?
Emporia, KS	maybe	in design / permitting
Lynnfield, MA	sort of	in design / permitting?
Seekonk, MA	yes	in permitting
Wareham, MA	yes	in permitting
Woburn, MA	yes	in permitting
Annapolis, MD	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Baltimore, MD	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Bethesda - Montgomery Mall East, MD	yes	in permitting
Bethesda - Montgomery Mall West, MD	yes	in permitting
Baileyville, ME	yes	in permitting
Portland, ME	yes	in permitting
Medway, ME	yes	in permitting
Escanaba, MI	yes	in permitting
Walker, MI	yes	in permitting
Alexandria, MN	yes	in permitting
Dickinson, ND	yes	in permitting
Fargo, ND	yes	in permitting
Pembina, ND	yes	in permitting
Basking Ridge, NJ	yes	in permitting
Deptford, NJ	yes	in permitting
Parsippany, NJ	yes	in permitting
Phillipsburg, NJ	yes	in permitting
Incline Village, NV	yes	under construction
Brooklyn, NY	yes	operational
Manorville, NY	maybe	in permitting?
Queens - Queens Central, NY	yes	operational
Dublin, OH	yes	operational
Maumee, OH	yes	expansion under construction
King of Prussia, PA	maybe	in design / permitting?
Wall, SD	probably	in design / permitting
Nashville - Downtown, TN	yes	permit issued
Austin - Research Blvd, TX	maybe	in site selection
Boerne, TX	maybe	in site selection
Burleson, TX	maybe	in site selection / design
Eastland, TX	maybe	in site selection
Fort Stockton, TX	yes	awaiting power on / testing
Fort Worth, TX	yes	in permitting
Giddings, TX	maybe	in site selection
Houston - Downtown, TX	maybe	in site selection / design
Katy, TX	maybe	in site selection
Mesquite, TX	maybe	in site selection
Mount Pleasant, TX	maybe	in site selection / design
Pecos, TX	yes	awaiting meter
Richmond, TX	yes	under construction
Round Rock, TX	maybe	in site selection / design
San Antonio, TX	yes	in permitting
Stafford, TX	maybe	in site selection / design
Vidor, TX	maybe	in site selection
Fairfax, VA	maybe	in site selection
Tysons, VA	yes	in permitting
Bellevue, WA	yes	in permitting
Issaquah, WA	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Salmon Arm, BC	maybe	in design/permitting
Surrey, BC	yes	awaiting transformer / hookup
Woodbridge, BC	maybe	in design/permitting
Brandon, MB	yes	in design/permitting
Portage la Prairie, MB	yes	in design/permitting
Prawda, MB	yes	in permitting
Edmunston, NB	yes	in permitting
Fredericton, NB	maybe	in design/permitting?
Quispamsis, NB	maybe	in design/permitting?
Salisbury, NB	maybe	in design/permitting?
Woodstock, NB	maybe	in design/permitting?
Enfield, NS	yes	awaiting construction
Brockville, ON	maybe	in design/permitting
Mississauga, ON	probably	in permitting
Yamachiche, QC	yes	under construction
Regina, SK	maybe	in design/permitting

Here are the 12 superchargers listed as coming in Summer 2018 which have not yet been located by TMC. These are prime sleuthing targets, as they probably all have the site selected and are in permitting or under construction.

Almaden CA, Dublin II CA, Los Altos CA, Mountain View II CA, Palo Alto CA, Woodside CA, Waterbury CT, West Palm Beach FL, Oak Brook IL, New Orleans LA, Natick MA, Moncton NB

Here are the 10 superchargers listed as coming in Fall 2018 which have not yet been located by TMC. These likely have a site selected and are in design, permitting, or construction phases.

Big Sur CA, Ojai CA, Pacific Palisades CA, Palm Springs CA, Rohnert Park CA, Watsonville CA, Westminster CA, Woodland CA, Miami Beach - South Beach FL, Newport News VA

Here are the remaining 341 superchargers Coming Soon in 2018 that haven't been found yet:
Dothan AL, Montgomery AL, Tuscaloosa AL, Arkadelphia AR, Bentonville AR, Blytheville AR, Clarksville AR, Forrest City AR, Fort Smith AR, Globe AZ, Kayenta AZ, Phoenix AZ, Anaheim CA, Bakersfield II CA, Beverly Hills CA, Brea CA, Cambria CA, Castro Valley CA, Cerritos CA, Chula Vista CA, Commerce CA, Corona CA, Dana Point CA, Del Mar CA, El Cajon CA, Escondido CA, Folsom III CA, Fresno II CA, Half Moon Bay CA, Hayward CA, Hesperia CA, Highland CA, Hollywood CA, Indio II CA, Irvine CA, Kirkwood CA, Kramer Junction CA, Lakewood CA, Long Beach CA, Los Angeles - Downtown CA, Malibu CA, Manhattan Beach CA, Mendocino CA, Merced CA, Mission Viejo CA, Mojave II CA, Moreno Valley CA, Northridge CA, Oakland CA, Ontario CA, Palm Desert CA, Palmdale CA, Pasadena CA, Playa Vista CA, Pomona CA, Redding CA, Redondo Beach CA, Richmond CA, San Diego - La Jolla CA, San Francisco CA, San Francisco (Financial Dist) CA, San Francisco (Mission) CA, San Francisco (SOMA) CA, San Mateo III CA, San Rafael CA, Santa Barbara CA, Santa Clara CA, Santa Cruz CA, Santa Rosa CA, Sherman Oaks CA, Simi Valley CA, Sonoma CA, South San Francisco CA, Stockton CA, Studio City CA, Tustin CA, Vallejo CA, Venice CA, Ventura CA, Visalia CA, Vista CA, Walnut Creek CA, West Covina CA, Yuba City CA, Alamosa CO, Denver II CO, Denver - Tech Center CO, Montrose CO, Steamboat Springs CO, Telluride CO, Walsenburg CO, Darien III CT, New London CT, North Stamford CT, Stamford CT, Torrington CT, Trumbull CT, Columbia Heights DC, Washington DC, Washington NE DC, Washington SE DC, Boca Raton FL, Celebration FL, Destin FL, Hollywood FL, Lakeland FL, Miami - Coral Gables FL, Miami Beach - Bal Harbor FL, North Naples FL, Riverside Park FL, Tampa - Clear Water FL, Tampa - Wesley Chapel FL, Weston FL, Yeehaw Junction FL, Atlanta - Cumberland GA, Atlanta - Virginia Highlands GA, College Park GA, Columbus GA, Forest Park GA, Madison GA, Metter GA, Honolulu HI, Kailua HI, Maui HI, Altoona IA, Heyburn ID, Mountain Home ID, Marion IL, Rosemont IL, Bloomington IN, Elberfeld IN, Indianapolis - Downtown IN, Olathe KS, Beverly MA, Boston - Fenway/Kenmore MA, Boston - Seaport MA, Braintree MA, Burlington MA, Charlestown MA, Falmouth MA, Orleans MA, Somerville MA, South Dennis MA, Waltham MA, Beltsville MD, Elkridge MD, Frederick MD, Greenbelt MD, Halethorpe MD, Portland ME, West Forks ME, Claire MI, Detroit MI, Mackinaw City MI, Novi MI, Swartz Creek MI, Bloomington MN, Maple Grove MN, Minneapolis MN, St. Paul MN, St. Joseph MO, St. Louis MO, Brookhaven MS, Hattiesburg MS, Bighorn MT, Glendive MT, Great Falls MT, Helena MT, Kalispell MT, Miles City MT, Shelby MT, Durham NC, Point Harbor NC, Bismarck ND, Grand Forks ND, Jamestown ND, North Conway NH, Rochester NH, Wolfeboro NH, Barnegat Township NJ, Bridgewater NJ, Cape May NJ, Cherry Hill NJ, Hackensack NJ, Hamilton Township II NJ, Mount Laurel NJ, Newark NJ, Roxbury Township NJ, Summit NJ, Tom's River NJ, West Orange NJ, Clayton NM, Clovis NM, Grants NM, Socorro NM, Primm II NV, Reno II, NV, Astoria NY, Bergen Beach NY, Buffalo NY, Centuck NY, Chelsea NY, Elmhurst NY, Harlem NY, Ithaca NY, Kips Bay, Little Neck NY, Oneonta NY, Roscoe NY, Salamanca NY, Shirley NY, Upper East Side NY, Wantagh NY, West Nyack NY, Woodbury NY, Cleveland OH, Columbus OH, Polaris OH, Henryetta OK, Boardman OR, Hood River OR, Madras OR, Newport OR, Ontario OR, Portland OR, Portland - NE OR, Portland - NW OR, Portland - SE OR, Roseburg OR, Salem OR, Woodburn II OR, Altoona PA, Philadelphia PA, Pittsburgh PA, Plymouth Meeting PA, Newport RI, Charleston SC, Austin (Downtown) TX, Beaumont TX, Brenham TX, Cedar Park TX, College Station TX, Dallas - Mesquite TX, Dilley TX, Falfurrias TX, Fredericksburg TX, Houston - Uptown TX, Lubbock TX, San Angelo TX, San Antonio - Walden Meadows TX, Wichita Falls TX, Ogden UT, Park City UT, Arlington VA, Gainesville VA, Lyndon VT, Rutland VT, Chelan WA, Ellensburg II WA, Enumclaw WA, Forks WA, Kirkland - Totem Lake WA, Longview WA, Okanogan WA, Olympia WA, Ritzville II WA, Seattle WA, Seattle - Northgate WA, Seattle - University Village WA, Snoqualmie WA, Spokane WA, Tacoma WA, Yakima WA, Lake Geneva WI, Milwaukee WI, Sturgeon Bay WI, Parkersburg WV, Casper WY, Cody WY, Bassano AB, Calgary II AB, Medicine Hat AB, Burnaby BC, Fernie BC, Richmond BC, Sicamous BC, Vancouver - North BC, Vancouver - West BC, Victoria BC, Reynolds MB, Frederickton NB, St. John NB, Woodstock NB, Batchawana Bay ON, Blind River ON, Deep River ON, Dryden ON, Espanola ON, Ignace ON, Kenora ON, Mississauga II ON, Nipigon ON, North Bay ON, North York ON, Orangeville ON, Orillia ON, Renfrew ON, St. Catherines ON, Sault Ste. Marie ON, Scarborough ON, Strathroy ON, Terrace Bay ON, Thunder Bay ON, Toronto - Libery Village ON, Toronto - The Annex ON, Toronto - Yonge / Eglinton ON, Upsala ON, Vaughan ON, Waterloo ON, Wawa ON, White River ON, Charlemagne QC, Gatineau QC, L'Étape QC, Lachute QC, La Pocatière QC, Lebourgneuf QC, Saguenay QC, Saint Georges QC, Saint Sauveur QC, Saint Therese QC, Sainte Eulalie QC, Trois-Rivieres QC, Chaplin SK, Maple Creek SK, Moose Jaw SK, Moosomin SK, Swift Current SK, Wolsely SK

 

[israndy]

Wow, thanks, so those really may all be new locations for Superchargers. And I am SURE they will all be available by the end of 2019.

-Randy

 

[ChrisJ]

A lot of the one's you mentioned have been coming soon for a very long time. e.g. Half Moon Bay and Vallejo. Mid and late 2017 a ton of new proposed sites were added.

You may be able to check archive.org to see if they cached the page.

 

[bmah]

A lot of the one's you mentioned have been coming soon for a very long time. e.g. Half Moon Bay and Vallejo. Mid and late 2017 a ton of new proposed sites were added.

You may be able to check archive.org to see if they cached the page.

Walnut Creek and Hayward have also been “coming soon” for awhile, I recall casually looking around for permit information on those.

Bruce.

 

[Zorg]

Cambria has been on the map since 2017

 

[NeverFollow]

A lot of the one's you mentioned have been coming soon for a very long time....

I guess, Europe is currently the number 1 priority!

Elon Musk promises 100 percent Tesla Supercharger coverage in Europe next year

<< In response to a question on Twitter, Musk said Tesla’s Supercharger coverage
will extend to 100 percent of Europe in 2019. “From Ireland to Kiev, from Norway to Turkey,” Musk wrote.>>

 

[ohmman]

I recall casually looking around for permit information on those.

I picture you with some fuzzy slippers, pajama pants and legs crossed on an ottoman, searching the permit database for 5 minutes and just shrugging.