Taycan Takedown

[Gordon87]

I agree that range likely won’t be an impediment if it is at least a decent level. I believe this car will succeed or not based on the software.

One significant reason I believe the Model 3 is so good is the user interface, from the simple-to-use navigation (including directing you to Superchargers when needed), the radio interface (put aside your view of Slacker), the incredibly simple-to-use driver assist features, the ability to easily check other information (like the rear camera, tire pressure and electric efficiency), the HVAC (especially the easy ability to start to heat and cool the car from afar using the app), and on and on — Let alone the continual updates to all these systems. This approach to operating the car’s features is very intuitive and it shows the incredible thought that all of the Tesla engineers, designers and management put in to the product.

It will be interesting to see reviews of the Taycan’s software and user interface.

 

[wenkan]

Range is still crucial if you want to track that car. P3D can barely do one hour continuous lapping or 3 20min sessions with a fully charged battery. Unless Porsche install their fast charging posts in the paddocks, Taycan will suffer from insufficient energy to enjoy a track day. If you don’t want to track your car, then what’s the meaning of spend so much money on Taycan instead of Model S?

 

[Daniel in SD]

Range is still crucial if you want to track that car. P3D can barely do one hour continuous lapping or 3 20min sessions with a fully charged battery. Unless Porsche install their fast charging posts in the paddocks, Taycan will suffer from insufficient energy to enjoy a track day. If you don’t want to track your car, then what’s the meaning of spend so much money on Taycan instead of Model S?

It depends how efficient it is at track speed then. The 2 speed transmission should help and it does have a larger battery than the Model 3. It’s not really in the same class as the Model S. Large luxury car vs. mid size sports sedan. I wouldn’t be surprised if some tracks get CCS chargers for them, Porsche owners have lots of money and many of them track their cars.

 

[TJ73]

Porsche just released a couple of interior pics. Looks like it will have 5 driving settings and 4 screens with the passenger getting a display too. Also it has 178 miles at 75%. So that is a pitiful 225 miles of range if the display is to be believed.

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What is that in front of the awfully placed cup holder, a thermos cap? A mr fusion flux capacitor?

 

[MagnusMako]

So I think this whole conversation just points towards that someone should definitely do a thorough in depth video review between the P3D and the Taycan, maybe even the S just to have as a reference even if it isn't directly competing. But make the review fully track oriented. Run the batteries down until they are depleted or over-heating / power limited. I'm excited to see how these cars all compare and also how it brings more competition to the table with EV's more than anything.

 

[CarlK]

Porsche just released a couple of interior pics. Looks like it will have 5 driving settings and 4 screens with the passenger getting a display too. Also it has 178 miles at 75%. So that is a pitiful 225 miles of range if the display is to be believed.

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How do you check or operate the main center screen sit that low? What are those guys thinking? Form over function?

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

How do you check or operate the main center screen sit that low? What are those guys thinking? Form over function?

Screengate?!?

 

[VT_EE]

What is that in front of the awfully placed cup holder, a thermos cap? A mr fusion flux capacitor?

Looks like a Camelback bladder lid to me.

 

[JulienW]

Looks like a Camelback bladder lid to me.

Looks like it might be some type of rotary selector.

 

[chickensworth]

So much hate... the Taycan looks like it's shaping up to be pretty awesome... like most Porches.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

So much hate... the Taycan looks like it's shaping up to be pretty awesome... like most Porches.

Yeah, I don't really get the hate. It looks like it will very likely be awesome - won't take long for it to take that production EV record at Laguna Seca away from the P3D+. Competition on performance (especially when it isn't actual market competition, so it won't impact sales in any significant way) and visibility for EV performance is good.

It's a multi-dimensional problem, and it's not a comparable vehicle...

Price
Performance
Safety
Efficiency
Reliability
Etc.

 

[Leeclanual]

The Taycan vs Roadster will be a better comparison....

 

[HyperMiler]

Porsche Taycan interior revealed - electrive.com

For a more 3D representation. The text says it all...

 

[JulienW]

Porsche Taycan interior revealed - electrive.com

For a more 3D representation. The text says it all...

Here if you want to go straight to the horses mouth (may be a US saying).

Digital, clear, sustainable: the interior of the new Porsche Taycan

 

[voip-ninja]

The Taycan vs Roadster will be a better comparison....

Sure but the Tesla Roadster is two years away. Those willing to pay a ton of money can get a Taycan within the next six months.

 

[EVDRVN]

"Classic design features have been reinterpreted and brought into the digital age. “Less is more applies here too,” explains Ivo van Hulten, Director Interior Design Style Porsche at Porsche AG."

Less is more? Less than what, there is stuff all over.

 

[MountainJedi]

Porsche just released a couple of interior pics. Looks like it will have 5 driving settings and 4 screens with the passenger getting a display too. Also it has 178 miles at 75%. So that is a pitiful 225 miles of range if the display is to be believed.

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I'm curious how much duplication there will be across screens. From the pictures they released, the passenger side screen is showing the phone, media, and GPS functions. That's not an ideal spot for a driver to be looking for those things, which suggests they'll have to be duplicated on the middle screen as well.

I guess I don't understand why you'd go with a 4th screen over there instead of a larger middle screen like a lot of companies (other than Tesla) have moved to.

 

[Daniel in SD]

I'm curious how much duplication there will be across screens. From the pictures they released, the passenger side screen is showing the phone, media, and GPS functions. That's not an ideal spot for a driver to be looking for those things, which suggests they'll have to be duplicated on the middle screen as well.

I guess I don't understand why you'd go with a 4th screen over there instead of a larger middle screen like a lot of companies (other than Tesla) have moved to.

The passenger side screen is optional and there is also an optional screen for rear passengers! I'm happy with my single screen but maybe Tesla should use the Porsche strategy and have a ridiculous number of options. It will be fun to play with configurator and see what the most expensive Taycan possible is.

 

[wenkan]

I'm curious how much duplication there will be across screens. From the pictures they released, the passenger side screen is showing the phone, media, and GPS functions. That's not an ideal spot for a driver to be looking for those things, which suggests they'll have to be duplicated on the middle screen as well.

I guess I don't understand why you'd go with a 4th screen over there instead of a larger middle screen like a lot of companies (other than Tesla) have moved to.

The most redundant item on Taycan is the start button. Why they fart with their pants down?

 

[MountainJedi]

The passenger side screen is optional and there is also an optional screen for rear passengers! I'm happy with my single screen but maybe Tesla should use the Porsche strategy and have a ridiculous number of options. It will be fun to play with configurator and see what the most expensive Taycan possible is.

I'm not opposed to more screens, but I think it will be depend on how configurable the UI is. If it's able to be completely personalized, then great, but if not, it would be weird to the same thing on multiple screens. It wouldn't add any utility for the passenger to see the GPS right in front of them and on the middle screen.