Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[RobDickinson]

NZ I am guessing has 150-200 orders ?


Edit for context.

In NZ in 2018 tesla sold a total of 254 cars
BMW sold 1651 in total for the year.

 

[paulp]

There is one advantage to not ordering yet... not agonising over the stuff that has occupied the previous 20 pages here... seriously people, I get it that it’s exciting, but stalking container ships and wearing out the F5 key?!?!

It will make sense once you’ve ordered

 

[meowsers]

NZ I am guessing has 150-200 orders ?

No way. I would bet there is absolutely no way NZ has 150-200 orders. I'm also going out on a limb and thinking Australia doesn't have near as many as we think.

 

[paulp]

Exactly - and if you're in WA a full vehicle inspection and fees (new or not), transport costs if applicable for you and your car and re-registration fees and plates etc. Be aware!

Same in SA

 

[RobDickinson]

No way. I would bet there is absolutely no way NZ has 150-200 orders. I'm also going out on a limb and thinking Australia doesn't have near as many as we think.

We have 50-60 confirmed orders on the NZ facebook page where I would guess at most half the buyers are.

 

[SaturnV]

Yep, I've already decided that today will not be the day.

Uh oh, this could end in tears as tomorrow never comes.

 

[meowsers]

We have 50-60 confirmed orders on the NZ facebook page where I would guess at most half the buyers are.

Yeah 100 maybe sounds more like it. From the looks of the Aus spreadsheet there are about 100 listed, keeping in mind these are the die-hard people so I think it is entirely reasonable that tesla could satisfy us all in 1-2 shiploads.

Of course I think this car has the potential to really take off in sales once people get a handle on it. Like it did in the US.

 

[crustovich]

If they didn't adjust their water ballast, that would mean that they unloaded something like 4 million kg.

I think you might be right about the ballast, according to the vessel timeline, the draft went from 10.5 to 10.9 as it departed Auckland harbour
Vessel details for: CAP CAPRICORN (Container Ship) - IMO 9649835, MMSI 636015660, Call Sign D5CC2 Registered in Liberia | AIS Marine Traffic

 

[RobDickinson]

tesla so far this year have registered 99 cars in NZ ..

 

[paulp]

That's a fair question, and it's at this point that I'm going to have to bow out. I simply don't know. I suspect a fair part of it would depend on whether they decided it was a wilful avoidance or merely inadvertent, but that's a pure guess.

Me... I'm just buying it in the state of Victoria and paying (somewhat begrudgingly) the $3k in LCT and $3.7k in stamp duty. It's a complete cash grab on the part of the government - I can't see how that much money for stamp duty can be justified (and the rationale for the luxury car tax is long since gone) - but... yeah. Sigh.

I’ve bought a couple of new audi’s in vic even though I’m a resident if SA. (Local dealer here doesnt know what the word discount means). To avoid paying the duty in vic and in sa, I had to get a temporary permit to drive from melbourne to the border, and then a temporary permit to drive from the border to rego office in SA, where the vehicles are inspected and the duty paid.
So yes you will pay twice if you get it wrong. Each state may be different, but governments do like their taxes.

 

[khayyam]

I’d be shocked if that many model 3’s are in the initial nz batch

Oh I agree. If they're containerised rather than roro, I'd expect a steady weekly drip. Why stress the local staff with one huge delivery that they can't handle?

 

[meowsers]

Oh I agree. If they're containerised rather than roro, I'd expect a steady weekly drip. Why stress the local staff with one huge delivery that they can't handle?

I wonder if Tesla will use a logistics company like Autonexus like the dealers here in melbourne do. Basically they manage the Dock / prep process and hold the cars until delivery time.

 

[RobDickinson]

I'm sure they will

 

[meowsers]

I had to get a temporary permit to drive from melbourne to the border, and then a temporary permit to drive from the border to rego office in SA, where the vehicles are inspected and the duty paid.

BTW You only need to buy one permit. Victorian unregistered vehicle permits are valid interstate...

 

[paulp]

I wonder if Tesla will use a logistics company like Autonexus like the dealers here in melbourne do. Basically they manage the Dock / prep process and hold the cars until delivery time.

Tesla use a delivery company for cars in SA. Last year it was autonexus

 

[paulp]

BTW You only need to buy one permit. Victorian unregistered vehicle permits are valid interstate...

There you go, I wasted $20.....and got pulled over by every police car that went past.

 

[khayyam]

I wonder if Tesla will use a logistics company like Autonexus like the dealers here in melbourne do. Basically they manage the Dock / prep process and hold the cars until delivery time.

Would think so. But even then, why pay the logistics company to store the cars for a month before you can get them all delivered?

 

[stuartl]

Would think so. But even then, why pay the logistics company to store the cars for a month before you can get them all delivered?

Depends on how much storage space they need, and whether they see the need in the long term. A short term rental may make more sense - it all depends on the specifics of how the cars are coming in, and how quickly they can be moved out the door.

 

[aegidius]

I'm also going out on a limb and thinking Australia doesn't have near as many as we think.

All depends what "we" think.. how many orders do we think for Aust? (not reservations, there will be a lot more of those than actual orders). Also, do we think that Tesla will bring more cars out in anticipation of those reservations converting to orders over the next few months? Or just ship 'em JIT?

My guess, fwiw, is ~5000 reservations and ~1000 orders as of now. I have heard reservations estimates up to 8000 in the past (as well as much greater and less believable numbers)

One thing that is known and not guessed: Tesla really likes to get orders fulfilled as end-of-quarter approaches to get numbers on the books, so they will do their damnedest to get those cars shipped over by mid-end Sept.

 

[Dave3333]

All depends what "we" think.. how many orders do we think for Aust? (not reservations, there will be a lot more of those than actual orders). Also, do we think that Tesla will bring more cars out in anticipation of those reservations converting to orders over the next few months? Or just ship 'em JIT?

My guess, fwiw, is ~5000 reservations and ~1000 orders as of now. I have heard reservations estimates up to 8000 in the past (as well as much greater and less believable numbers)

One thing that is known and not guessed: Tesla really likes to get orders fulfilled as end-of-quarter approaches to get numbers on the books, so they will do their damnedest to get those cars shipped over by mid-end Sept.

Yep, that latter reason is why I fully expect to be in my car next month!